I don't post much on the forums but I do however read quite a bit, the one thing I am getting a strong sense of, is how people want to move past WOTLK and onto the later expansions. (I am one of them  ). I am also noticing at least 2 reasons as to why people have not so far.

1. To many different tools are needed to do so, alot of different tasks are needed to be done by to many different applications, when, in reality, the process could be simplified and integrated into 1 program (Noggit). For Example:

                      Instead of using futa and adt adder then the offset fix and gruul me (4 different applications) to get your first map up and running. You can have a "Create New Map" button in noggit. When clicked it would ask you to input the map name, base texture, if you want it covered in water and what kind of water, and the general height of the adt. After all that is put in you hit a create button. Then a progress bar will show up as noggit automatically creates the adt files, does the offset fix, creates the wdt and wdl files all in one swoop. All that is left is for you to do the Map and Area DBC for it to be recognized. We have the source for all these programs if I remember correctly?

You would still need Futa for alpha maps but the other 3 programs you would not need anymore. Basically intergrate the tools we are already using into 1 program instead of being split into many different programs. Gruulme would still have its use as well outside of noggit for if you change the size of your map or something like that, but I am sure that could be intergrated as well. I think you get the idea .

2. The other reason I think people aren't moving past wotlk is the server emulation. To be honest the other cores no matter how you slice it are not up to snuff with wotlk, which is no suprize. To be honest I could careless if everything is spawned and 100% blizzlike gameplay. I would rather have the empty sandbox where nothing is spawned but all the systems like say (spells, professions, questing, talents etc... etc..) are working 100%, spawning and such can come later (as that really is a ton of work). Besides, we are here to create our own gameworld inside the world of warcraft universe, why would we need the blizzlike spawns and encouners to be blizzlike scripted? No idea how to fix this one, besides just waiting  .

Those are the 2 main things I have noticed.

We have an ADT converter, a wdt converter which can convert and create the necessary files needed for maps to be recognized in WOD (ADT, WDL, WDT). We have a M2 and WMO converter which can convert down to WOTLK or WOD. Which means we have the ability to read those specific files and convert them down and up correct, with the sources on how to do so? So if all that information and such is integrated into noggit we should be able to read and write adt files in noggit for later expansions (WOD mainly). We can use the info from the M2 and WMO converter to be able to render those objects in noggit (cause it would need to know how to read the M2 and WMO files). So that convers the maps and all the objects in that version of the game. We have the information, all that is left is to make it a reality right?

Maybe its just me lol, I just believe all this stuff could be simplified greatly to make things quite a bit easier for everybody to do, so wow modding as a whole, can move past wotlk. I have actually tried to learn how to code in c++ (spent quite a lot of time on it actually) just so I could help with these things or do them myself, just, it didn't stick very well so it is gonna be quite a long time before I can be of use with these things as I need to learn it. Hopefully this helps with giving the people that can code, the ideas and thoughts needed to help things move forward? I would really love to see things step forward, as a whole.

Not sure why it did that, I was able to download the whole client, and it works . Maybe try again?

Comparing it to the Retail Folder it looks like there are a few files that are missing

maybe just download 6.2.3 and then patch it to 6.2.4 with a stand alone 6.2.4 patch? Just a thought, will look into it and get back with you.

I see the boards are still alive and active =D. Life has been super busy for the last 5-6 months (has been awhile) since I last posted here. I haven't been modding wow for quite sometime (been waiting for a new editor) but I have been messing with music.

Actually have something new to share from my previous posts here but this time it isn't an orchestral or film genre. I am trying my hand at dance/club music to get more familiar with the different types of software synths that are out there and what they can do.

http://freemp3hosting.com/4ve

The intro builds till 34 seconds into the song then it just explodes at you =D.

Hope you all enjoy and look forward to any feedback ?

Here recently I have been playing Landmark a bit more then I did before (actually learned how to use the tools in the game and what not). The screenshots below are something I did to get use to the building tools. It's an elevated Elven 4-way intersection without the pillar underneath. I am actually quite proud of it as it was the first thing I have created in the game.









After figuring out how to use the tools to the extent I wanted, I decided it was time to place my second claim and build my "Workshop" for creating my buildings/designs I am going to be using in the game. All the shapes and stuff you see sitting on the wall are different things I can use to copy and paste together and change the textures to help make what I am wanting to make in the game "You can alter the shapes you paste also, pretty much you can change anything and everything". The big patch of dirt is where I do the building.



















I am actually having alot of fun in this game (can't wait for them to add the ability to create scenarios and such into the game to really bring the stuff to life).

Quote from: "Kranimal"

worldwmodraenorhuman6hu_garrison_magictower_v3.wmo

Here's images of this wmo with all of it's doodads enabled, I'm still doing tests to figure out if it's safe to do this (force spawn) on everything or should it only be done on specific wmos or should it be left to just being done by hand.

That is just awesome, so the reason I am having that black texture on the windows is cause the m2 that is right there (that orange glow ball thing) is causing that black texture in the video? Also the doodads I would have to force spawn correct? no idea how to do that lol.

The editedCataToLkM2 did crash once when I was using it in the batch script, I just hit the X and it moved onto the next .m2 but only 1 time. Think it had something to do with a file in ZG not sure which one though

I got the .m2 files and .wmo files downported from WOD to WOTLK, just seems to be a couple minor issues I was wondering how to fix.

First at the start of the video on the .m2 with the fire it is shooting out particles of small green boxes, is this cause I don't have a specific texture in the patch or is it something else entirely or how do I fix this ?

Second as you can see on the farmhouse windows, there is a black texture there instead of a window texture, also on a couple of other buildings as well. Is that an issue with the transparency of the .m2 for the glow effect or is that a texture issue for the windows? This I would like to fix as it look odd for a blackspot on a window lol, just need to know how =D.

Third is, as you might have noticed some of the .wmos don't have there doodads and some do, they are there when I load it in the 010 editor but they aren't showing ingame (yes I did convert them). This is the last Issue I am trying to fix atm, Any help would be greatly appreciated =D

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