A New Website for WoW Modding

[Valkryst]

You all done arguing?

If you want to go to the new site, then go.
If you want to stay, then stay.
If you want to use both, then do that.

Nothing else matters.

[Magnus]

Milly, speaking about CSS, RSS, domain names (and may other technical stuff I already have forgotten) is seldom connected to any personal emotional feeling against somebody on my side.

Why should I get about such things in personal touch with anybody ?

If it's true what Skarn is telling that you have archived my postings, please reread it once more in a quite and moderate mood.

I'm absolutely sure you will see nothing else than technical stuff. Either I proposed something or I have asked what the reasons are of some decisions that are made at that time. I never was demanding, why I should ? It's not my project, nor I'm paying for it .

And the fact that you followed some of my proposals proofs in my eyes that they was helpful. I'm glad to see that.

Even if you have may misunderstand some words of my text lacks to my bad English you have seen that ALL postings had only one goal: To improve your project, to make it better for the target you have told me in Skype.

[Milly]

When I say emotion, I don't mean it personally. It's like the difference between abruptly saying "No" and politely saying "No thanks". It again goes back to my suspicion of language barrier. But these things can quickly become extremely offensive especially when the internet lacks tone and body language when communicating with others. Like you said, it may be your bad English. And it may be cultural differences. I don't really know.

And okay, your advices did help. At least one that I can think of, which is the domain name. Really I was never fully comfortable with it though because it was chosen mostly out of desperation. You sort of gave the extra push. Anyway thanks. But there's no need for bloodshed. I'm not arguing anymore.

[Magnus]

Excuse me, that I didn't had any time to add some poems and some pink hearts around my postings.  

I thought it's enough to point you to some important technical details, like project name and initiate a fruitful discussion there.

[MountainLion]

I was about to lock this thread, it has reached the point of no return.

But there is no point, as you will most likely create another thread someday and continue with your shit drama. There is also no point in re-banning you because you'll just create another account and start throwing shit everywhere.

I am not the type of person to be this way and Steff knows it, but I can no longer consider what you have to say, do or think as a person so my attitude towards you is disgusting naturally.

Please, if you will not leave this site, then at least do not create shit drama on threads. Go outside, start a fight with someone and let them beat the shit out of you, maybe you'll become a man because you're acting like a little girl.

I can confirm what Magnus said. You try to turn people against Steff/Schlumpf talking crap about them... Be a man and accept it. Now it's public knowledge... We can at least be comfortable that people can see the other side of your one-sided point of views.

You are the type of person that is a plague. Have a nice day.

Edit: I'll just edit my post since the thread is now locked.

I forgot to mention that I read this same thread on your website. Question, why is this thread "The nicer version" and why is the one on your website more shit-talking about Modcraft? Hmm... Questions questions.

You brought this on yourself boy.

Ok, I'll accept that. I don't "have the right to mod here" lol... I can also say, you don't have the right to steal what others worked on for years and years, which is: Building a community, taking the glory for yourself telling people 'it's for the better of the community'... Hehe fucking weasel

[Milly]

Do you even read the things that I've said here? I'm not the one causing drama! People are stopping by and shitting all over this thread because they don't like it. Me and Magnus came to peaceful terms just now and you're the one who has to come back and re-fuel the drama. I'm merely standing my ground.

YOU are the problem. And fuck you, I was never banned to begin with. I was only given warning. I don't know why schlumpf said that. And no, I would not create more accounts. And no I would not make another thread. Quit assuming such things about me. You do not know me. You have no right to be mod on this site.

[Valkryst]

I've locked the thread at Milly's request.

[schlumpf]

To be honest, I do not agree on locking this post. People are voicing their opinions, and this is the right place for it.

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[Magnus]

Locking this topic viewtopic.php?f=29&t=9939 is a little bit against the rights of a free speech, isn't it ?

Sometime things have to be told. But they don't need to put in stone.

Me(Milly) and Magnus came to peaceful terms just now

I take this as an apology and accept it.

However locking a topic in a continuous discussion so fast is imho not the right way.

I vote to delete the whole topic (incl. this). The participating users had their fun. What has been said was said. There is no reason to let such things to stay for the rest of the life.

Personally I'm surprised that it's allowed here to advertise a competitors website. So I vote to delete the whole topic incl. the opening post.

I feel sorry that the small community is split in two parts in this way but still wish the new project all the best.

[Milly]

I agree, it shouldn't need locked. But there's a certain line of ruthless flaming and dehumanizing that you just shouldn't cross. What's been said just now is by far the cruelest and most fucked up thing I have ever read on Modcraft.

Also, MountainLion, this thread is identical on both websites. So I don't see what you're saying, sorry.

[MountainLion]

Locking this topic viewtopic.php?f=29&t=9939 is a little bit against the rights of a free speech, isn't it ?

Sometime things have to be told. But they don't need to put in stone.

Me(Milly) and Magnus came to peaceful terms just now

I take this as an apology and accept it.

However locking a topic in a continuous discussion so fast is imho not the right way.

I vote to delete the whole topic (incl. this). The participating users had their fun. What has been said was said. There is no reason to let such things to stay for the rest of the life.

Personally I'm surprised that it's allowed here to advertise a competitors website. So I vote to delete the whole topic incl. the opening post.

I feel sorry that the small community is split in two parts in this way but still wish the new project all the best.

As much as I agree with you, we cannot just delete things. I also wish the new project good luck. I don't think it was the best way of going about the whole thing but that's just me. You had your fun as well.

[Magnus]

As much as I agree with you, we cannot just delete things.

For technical reason ? Or because of a kind of forum politics ?

[Milly]

For technical reason ? Or because of a kind of forum politics ?

Because people spent a lot of time and effort to post their opinions here. It's not fair to ruin it for everyone just because there are a few people who started a flame war. Though in the end it is up to the admins.

[Skarn]

Guys, just to sum up everything up, let's discuss here things related to the initial post of this topic from this moment. This topic is dedicated to the new community project. It is made for letting people know that it  exists and sharing opinions. The forum is not a place to argue about our personal stuff, we can do it somewhere else. People who might be itnerested in the actual topic of the thread might not even know any of us and are certainly not interested in reading personal arguments.
I also think that it is a good decision to unlock the thread. Closed threads piss me off.

[Magnus]

I agree, it shouldn't need locked. But there's a certain line of ruthless flaming and dehumanizing that you just shouldn't cross. What's been said just now is by far the cruelest and most fucked up thing I have ever read on Modcraft.

Yes, it is. But honestly both of you, Milly and Skarn, you don't feel the way you was posting here was forcing that ?

And take this as a funny sidenote:

Skarn was blaming me I would do agism. To be honest I didn't know that word in English, I had to translate it first. Even in German (Altersdiskriminierung) I find it funny.

Wasn't it you both that was telling about old guys, 50+ old ? As far as I know here are quite a lot of well reputated users 40+ and even 50+. Isn't blaming that people not also agism ? No answer needed ;-)