A New Website for WoW Modding

[Amaroth]

I have seen Reznik showing Modcraft to his viewers in one his video, but it was a czech video and he was showing a czech section here. So its just for a limited audience. I have put MC-Net and Modcraft tags to all of my videos. But what we truly need are english showoff videos containing (at the beginning of video) links to at least one of our sites.

Another point. Try googling MC-Net or Modcraft. You can be damn sure that EVERYONE will misunderstand actually both sites as some another site related to Minecraft. While this could seem to be helpful because of Minecraft's popularity, it doesn't drag audience which would be interrested in WoW modding. Modcraft says nothing about us (and its name of some popular lets play series on YouTube, so we are just overthrown by... that thing).:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Modcraft

MC-Net leads to very similiar results (well, its a new page, but are you sure that it will get better over time?). Your efforts to be cross-platform model changing site and make it look so in its domain name are both ambitious and doom for your advertisement campaign. Your arguments why http://modcraft.io/ is probably the worse domain we can have are valid. But your domain is sadly far from optimal, too. I would put wowmodding.net there. MC-Net is catchy, I'll give you that, but that Minecraft thing still makes it poor choice in my opinion.

Btw:
https://www.google.com/search?q=modcraf ... 2&ie=UTF-8
- The only "useful" videos being shown while looking for this are some outdated videos full of Vanilla models and poor terrain designing skills. No offence meant for whoever who made those zones show in those videos, its just reality, I was making such maps too, but well, 3 years ago. Take a look at recent Allifeur's work. Thats something what should truly be saying something about us.

40k views and content is like 7 years old. The thing is, it really IS nearly 7 years old.

If you still want to wonder why the most of the world doesn't know about us - try looking into search engines what will you find when you try to search for key words people interrested in WoW and/or modding things might be entering there. Will you find us there? No? Why? Yes? What kind of "amazing, stunning, awesome" things will you find if yes? And that is problem you need to have fixed first guys. I can try to help you with YouTube efforts, I can create an english YT channel, but sadly I am not sure if I have enough time for such things left.

[Milly]

Wasn't sure what you meant by our site being multi-platform. It is a WoW Modding site ^^

And yeah, I don't know how keen we are with MC Net. I much rather prefer calling it Model Changing Network which is its proper name. Using MC Net in the logo is more about design constraints.

Though, still against calling it WoW Modding. It'd be like if Sleep World were called Beds. Might be good as a domain name but then causes an identity crisis sort of thing.

[Amaroth]

I just tryed to make my feedback constructive.

[Milly]

It is constructive   don't know if you got the wrong impression. I appreciate everything you said and you bring up a lot of concerns.

[Kaev]

I think your points are the most valid Amaroth. Except no cookies for schlumpf. >:C

But really, advertisement is probably the #1 thing that WoW modding needs. Not in the commercial marketing sense. We mostly just need to spread awareness. Some of us have already been reaching out to people from other communities, as well as telling our friends, but it's not enough. What would be really great is if folks like Reznik helped us out by spreading the word. Or if someone else with time and skills could do something similar.

Another thing people need is guidance. WoW modding is natural to us, but it's actually a really steep learning curve.

I want to mention that like everyone here is saying that we need to advertise WoW modding but i actually see nearly no posts from the good modding guys at the bigger private server forums where they show their stuff. They nearly always post it just here.
If you all really want to advertise modding, post all your stuff on AC-Web, ElitePvPers, OwnedCore, EmuDevs and co too. Advertise modding on modding only sites isn't really effective.

[Skarn]

I think your points are the most valid Amaroth. Except no cookies for schlumpf. >:C

But really, advertisement is probably the #1 thing that WoW modding needs. Not in the commercial marketing sense. We mostly just need to spread awareness. Some of us have already been reaching out to people from other communities, as well as telling our friends, but it's not enough. What would be really great is if folks like Reznik helped us out by spreading the word. Or if someone else with time and skills could do something similar.

Another thing people need is guidance. WoW modding is natural to us, but it's actually a really steep learning curve.

I want to mention that like everyone here is saying that we need to advertise WoW modding but i actually see nearly no posts from the good modding guys at the bigger private server forums where they show their stuff. They nearly always post it just here.
If you all really want to advertise modding, post all your stuff on AC-Web, ElitePvPers, OwnedCore, EmuDevs and co too. Advertise modding on modding only sites isn't really effective.

The real problem is that those Model Editing sections there are not popular. New content rarely appears there, so people don't look there too often. In my opinion, the best way to advertise is YouTube. Shows your works, link the site name in the videos. People come across those and get excited, they start reading more about modding. In order to drag their attention, one can make some non-modding related videos, for example some Legion Beta review. Just to drag more potential users to watch other things on the channel.

[Amaroth]

In my opinion, the best way to advertise is YouTube. Shows your works, link the site name in the videos. People come across those and get excited, they start reading more about modding. In order to drag their attention, one can make some non-modding related videos, for example some Legion Beta review. Just to drag more potential users to watch other things on the channel.

Thats exactly the point I wanted to reach. Forums have quite limited audience, even these "big" ones.

[Skarn]

In my opinion, the best way to advertise is YouTube. Shows your works, link the site name in the videos. People come across those and get excited, they start reading more about modding. In order to drag their attention, one can make some non-modding related videos, for example some Legion Beta review. Just to drag more potential users to watch other things on the channel.

Thats exactly the point I wanted to reach. Forums have quite limited audience, even these "big" ones.

Well, that's particularly the reason why we are going with social media.

[Milly]

I personally think Kaev is on the right track. Posting on Ac-Web and other larger websites might actually help. Yeah the modding scene is very tiny on those sites but that is the problem. Nobody posts there. But these sites are still filled with emulator folks who might want to learn more if they come across some really nice builds and so on.

[Skarn]

The only problem is that people who tried posting there about Modcraft long ago got some warnings from local admins. Like you are not allowed to post external links there or something. I might be wrong but I think I remember something like that on AC-Web and maybe Emudevs, not sure.

[Valkryst]

I think your points are the most valid Amaroth. Except no cookies for schlumpf. >:C

But really, advertisement is probably the #1 thing that WoW modding needs. Not in the commercial marketing sense. We mostly just need to spread awareness. Some of us have already been reaching out to people from other communities, as well as telling our friends, but it's not enough. What would be really great is if folks like Reznik helped us out by spreading the word. Or if someone else with time and skills could do something similar.

Another thing people need is guidance. WoW modding is natural to us, but it's actually a really steep learning curve.

I want to mention that like everyone here is saying that we need to advertise WoW modding but i actually see nearly no posts from the good modding guys at the bigger private server forums where they show their stuff. They nearly always post it just here.
If you all really want to advertise modding, post all your stuff on AC-Web, ElitePvPers, OwnedCore, EmuDevs and co too. Advertise modding on modding only sites isn't really effective.

But... but... but those sites are cancer.

No, but seriously. I just prefer not to post on those sites. I don't even visit them anymore since most of the tutorials or info on them is either ripped from here or just garbage as-far as I've seen.

Might be useful to post there with links to both ModCraft and Model-Changing to move users away from those other sites.

[Kaev]

Might be useful to post there with links to both ModCraft and Model-Changing to move users away from those other sites.

That's actually what i wanted to reach with my post. If you post model changing stuff there, they will get interested and (hopefully) join our forums.

[miaxos]

But i can't register to your website, registration mail isn't send.

[Skarn]

But i can't register to your website, registration mail isn't send.

Check the spam folder.