A New Website for WoW Modding

[Jøk3r]

Just by having a working (map) editor for newer versions than 3.3.5 the modding scene would be more active in my opinion.

[Ohai]

As a web designer I would like to add a few things no offense to anyone its a nice initiative and this is just some friendly advice, 1st functionally the slider on the top isn't really necessary you should try composing the front page to hold all relevant categories up front as soon as the page loads without using the scroller, you can manage art/design in the free space around the forum interface.
Second thing design wise the logo is really bad is that a comic sans font or something? I can make a nice logo for you, this is the most recent one I made for a friends private server


http://postimg.org/image/u24w20h4f/

[Milly]

As a web designer I would like to add a few things no offense to anyone its a nice initiative and this is just some friendly advice, 1st functionally the slider on the top isn't really necessary you should try composing the front page to hold all relevant categories up front as soon as the page loads without using the scroller, you can manage art/design in the free space around the forum interface.
Second thing thing design wise the logo is really bad is that a comic sans font or something? I can make a nice logo for you, this is the most recent one I made for a friends private server

Yes, the logo is really bad. I made it in a hurry and can't afford to pay people anymore, because of Uni. I can assure you it's definitely not Comic Sans though. As for the slider, we decided it is necessary after spending about 3 months trying to find an alternative to it. During that time we've asked for feedback from dozens of people, consulted 4 different web designers, and brain-stormed plenty ourselves. I also went to school for web design over a short time before quitting because I didn't like it and financial reasons.

Btw.. we really, really love the slider Thank you for the thoughts though

[Ohai]

Well ofcourse its not set in stone what you should do on your website its yours after all, but theres nice WP templates with scrolling backgrounds or paralax backgrounds if you want to put WoW art more prominently. Sliders function usually is linking that image to some content on the website, and since you put it up there just aesthetically you could add more images at least lol, but again its up to you.

And what CMS did you use I couldnt detect anything was this custom made?

[Milly]

This was made using the Invision Power Suite. Also, we're still new so we haven't really gotten around to a lot of things. The main purpose of the slider is actually to hold text and link to featured projects and so on. However, this was one of our ambitions during our WordPress/phpBB phase, and I'm not totally sure how the new slider works. It's a third party slider added in entirely separate from the Invision Power platform.

[Ohai]

And why did you name it model-changing, if its just content from modcraft, meaning WoW related. Modcraft says WoW model chaning is to general, there's alot of things you should change imo.

I mean its nice that you want to help modcraft and everything, but promotion wise a new site isnt really necessary, social networking facebook and twitter will do just fine unless you're willing to cash in for ads or whatever. Also 1 thing I think you're forgetting modcraft may be old and designed like this however it is, but in with these specialized groups like this one people get used to the same forum like this and many dont pay attention to the design, becuase its not just art theres alot of programming also, and modcraft did build a name for itself in this period and its like youre just throwing that away or aside..

I dunno i think you would have to name that one modcraft aswell, be more active on social networks(although for promotion of WoW in general there isnt much you can do except build awsome private servers ). And about the the new site it could be ok, with some redesigning dunno, I got alot of themeforest excellent WP themes and can help out if you need anything gotta go on skype now lol

[Milly]

I disagree

[Skarn]

And why did you name it model-changing, if its just content from modcraft, meaning WoW related. Modcraft says WoW model chaning is to general, there's alot of things you should change imo.

I mean its nice that you want to help modcraft and everything, but promotion wise a new site isnt really necessary, social networking facebook and twitter will do just fine unless you're willing to cash in for ads or whatever. Also 1 thing I think you're forgetting modcraft may be old and designed like this however it is, but in with these specialized groups like this one people get used to the same forum like this and many dont pay attention to the design, becuase its not just art theres alot of programming also, and modcraft did build a name for itself in this period and its like youre just throwing that away or aside..

I dunno i think you would have to name that one modcraft aswell, be more active on social networks(although for promotion of WoW in general there isnt much you can do except build awsome private servers ). And about the the new site it could be ok, with some redesigning dunno, I got alot of themeforest excellent WP themes and can help out if you need anything gotta go on skype now lol

Come on, you can't promote something that does not want to be promoted and you also can't help in that case. Among staff members I currently only see schulmpf being active all the time here and maybe 1-2 modertators. The community can't evolve if it is isolated from the world and is not maintained by its admins. Seriously, Modcraft has been getting worse and worse since 2012 in everything. Shoutbox removal, stupid rank equalizing, reduction of online and many more things.

[axel0099]

I agree with skarn.

[Ohai]

Come on, you can't promote something that does not want to be promoted and you also can't help in that case. Among staff members I currently only see schulmpf being active all the time here and maybe 1-2 modertators. The community can't evolve if it is isolated from the world and is not maintained by its admins. Seriously, Modcraft has been getting worse and worse since 2012 in everything. Shoutbox removal, stupid rank equalizing, reduction of online and many more things.

I understand, and I'm fully up for promotion of modcraft in general, me personally I've been really busy RL crap lately but planning to getting back here soon as possible. Its just that the general WoW decline problem is not really modcraft related, not even sure how much can any of us do about it.
And I wasnt talking about modcraft admins support dunno about that really was just talking about the new site from a technical perspective

[schlumpf]

Will you ever stop with the fucking ranks? Everyone who complains about that to this day has a fucking special colored name. Nobody who does not still have a colored name ever complained.

I agree on the shoutbox removal being not ideal, then again, let's see what a shoutbox is used for, on the example of mcnet:

• post about a broken link in some thread which can go in that thread
• crying about missing tools
• the shoutbox notification sound
• unanswered greeting
• retro porting possibility question
• unanswered greeting

I can't see any history, so that's only four days of content, but I honestly doubt there would be anything else in it. The modcraft shoutbox never had anything else in it either.


Please just stop complaining about the most stupid and the most insignificant issue of modcraft. This is not why modcraft is dead. It is just not the case.

[Milly]

I agree schlumpf. I actually like the shoutbox for these reasons, though.

And yeah, colors has nothing to do with inactivity. It's just a bit of discomfort.

[Ohai]

If your goal is promotion, key is finding who is your 'competition' or partners or whatever and what they're doing, that would be AC-web or trinitycore or whoever. Just the other day I was trying to find modcraft or trinitycore on facebook there was neither, from one side I understand that both being specialized in WoW/modding but if you're goal here is promotion you should get on social networks and have active accounts there, get modders, 3D artists designers there with updates projects jobs stuff like that

[Milly]

You're right. We've planned social media from the start. I haven't had time yet for it though.

Our social media buttons are already at the bottom of our page. Not functional yet.

Hard to get around to these sorts of things when you work 30 hours a week on top of uni.

[Skarn]

Will you ever stop with the fucking ranks? Everyone who complains about that to this day has a fucking special colored name. Nobody who does not still have a colored name ever complained.

I agree on the shoutbox removal being not ideal, then again, let's see what a shoutbox is used for, on the example of mcnet:

• post about a broken link in some thread which can go in that thread
• crying about missing tools
• the shoutbox notification sound
• unanswered greeting
• retro porting possibility question
• unanswered greeting

I can't see any history, so that's only four days of content, but I honestly doubt there would be anything else in it. The modcraft shoutbox never had anything else in it either.


Please just stop complaining about the most stupid and the most insignificant issue of modcraft. This is not why modcraft is dead. It is just not the case.

I just feel sorry for advanced artists, I still have my blue colour and I am okay with it. But the change itself was not necessary.
Speaking about shotbox, I too noticed that it does not have history. Though, I will look into it. The reasons why people don't talk there is because the site is actually new and have been officially on only for a couple of weeks. But except for all this notification sound testing flood and other stuff, we had good conversations in it.
I disagree with you on Modcraft shoutbox. When I came to Modcraft there were always people talking about things and it kept them alive on the page, so they were more active on the board too. I remember stoneharry, Vel, you, Eluo and other guys being there like every day. Am I wrong?