Color name poll

[Steff]

I chatted now with some members that realy gave some Arguments why the Name difference was a good thing.
So I think.. let us just ask you.


The plan is, if you poll for it to have contributors shown in a different color like normal users.

[Milly]

I think there should be an option for "Put all usergroups back exactly as they were."
This is less about personal preference and more about the community's success.

The way I see it, this has divided the community into two groups:
The people who are okay with the color changes, and the people who are really pissed off.

I've yet to see many people who actually wanted this. The new color will only do harm.

Also, as I understand it, the colors were changed because they confuse newbies.
I disagree, and the people who helped build this community are more important anyway.

[Allifeur]

Being a lazy person, I will simply put again what I wrote on the other thread for those who didn't read it. If you already did, that will save you time.

I would like to say that removing name colors is not a very good idea ! To make it clear I'll analyse more precisely the effects they had on the community, then you'll understand why so many people care about them.

   First of all, the name color is a symbolical distinction for a lot people, it's like saying "you're part of the community, we recognize your effort". As we are social individuals, we tend to want these medals of merit ! The color becomes a carrot on a stick that insentivies participation in the forum. While I agree it would be better to have people participating for the sole purpose of general progression, you can't realisticaly expect everybody to be that mature.
 
  You might fear the arrogance that could come from these colors, and feel they would make newer players more reluctant to join; or even confused about what the color means. But I would tend to think it's the contrary : The color helps them identify and organize people identity. You'll trust more easily someone who is marked as a developer or an advanced artist. If an advanced artist doesn't like a map, you'll know his opinion is more relevant, and is more likely to teach you things. Obviously, the content of a message is far more important, but still, the color gives the little touch that says "This guy knows what he's talking about". And that is not a bad thing, because it DOESN'T make other people reactions worthless either. It'll just help the member to understand there are several kinds of point of view.

 Imagine a young guy who wants to create his own maps on Noggit, he'll tend to look more at the orange-colored name topics if he wants a reference. But, then, he'll also look at other people level designs. He'll then make his own opinion about what is better, and analyze what makes their maps better. The color simply makes him more aware of differences, and trust me, these are NOT as obvious as you could think they are. There are people who ask me level design advices because of the name color, prooving that it has a psychological impact that is good for the community.

 So I understand your point of view that each indivual should be distinguished by his words and individual replies. But they should also be considered by their previous actions, and that is what the color was useful for.

[spik96]

Regardless of what you do, please don't bring back the grey for regular members. It was painful to look at. Grey don't fit with the theme.

[Milly]

Regardless of what you do, please don't bring back the grey for regular members. It was painful to look at. Grey don't fit with the theme.

I think the gray is still better than this light-blue. Much better.

Also gray fits with every theme as it's a shade, not a color. Just no more light-blue plox T_T

[Met@]

The colors served me a bit like a landmark, now when I look at the index page with all same color, I feel a little bit lost.
And for the new members, there’s a legend under this forum, like all forums who  have colors for names.

[Skarn]

I am glad that the majority of people share the same opinion as me on the colors. Speaking about color preferences, if you dislike some certain colour on the website, get Stylish browser extension. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/deta ... cffe?hl=ru
It is very easy to use, so that you can swap colors.

[Chase]

"Yes, give us one color again."
"No, all the same color."

I'm not sure which option is which?

[XxXGenesisXxX]

I don't really care that much, I mean, the distinction in what peoples credibility towards skill is nice, but really; I just think the current blue is really gross lol...

Edit: I am bored so let's actually approach this from a different angle to draw out some ideas.

I think the fundamental problem with the action taken was more that it was somewhat of a punishment for those who had done something or at least anything for the community. You don't punish someone who gives, because they stop giving. In my opinion the correct idea would of been to encourage those that give, to give more.

When you think about it, at Modcraft we have 3 classes to define input to the community:

1. Guests
2. Members
3. Contributors

That seems way to vague and broad. I have done very little in comparison to stoneharry yet our title is the same. This then applies backwards for myself as someone who has contributed a little bit, compared to someone who has contributed nothing. Effectively your approach was an act of regression rather than progression in any sense of it. It would make more sense to encourage the Member to reach Contributor and the Contributor to reach something even higher.

You are right that it shouldn't be a motive, but removing motive altogether helps no one.

[MountainLion]

"Yes, give us one color again."
"No, all the same color."

I'm not sure which option is which?

That's the point, to trick you. At the end of the day this is communism!

Everyone has done a good job so far voicing opinions and suggestions, great

Please continue voting everyone!

jk Chase

[inico]

If you put them back please don't invite everybody to them (specially aggressive people).

[Steff]

I will in the future again be harder about snceless posts.
If it is not about the topic or constructiv. The post will just dissapeare.

Like in every good totalitary system

[Milly]

I will in the future again be harder about snceless posts.
If it is not about the topic or constructiv. The post will just dissapeare.

Like in every good totalitary system

Don't get me wrong, but from my perspective it looks like you just posted a mostly non-constructive post in a completely unrelated thread about how you will no longer tolerate non-constructive or unrelated posts. Am I missing something?

[stoneharry]

I don't get why people need some cosmetic reward based on someone's arbitrary evaluation to raise their epeen.

People who had coloured names certainly did not know or help more than non-coloured names.

Polls like this will always bias towards the many getting their epeen back.

I think schumpf put it well:

The fact that even though you have two huge banners of being special, but still you're complaining about the name's color, is just fucked up and shows how you don't give a fuck about the community and should probably have never got that rank to begin with. The rank is still there, just less easily confused with being a moderator. Nobody took away anything of you but a colored name. People still see you as being special. If you want to be more special than being special, then god, I can't help you. If you always did things only because of a color, not to help newcomers or something, imho you never deserved the rank to begin with.

[Milly]

I don't get why people need some cosmetic reward based on someone's arbitrary evaluation to raise their epeen.

Just because you don't understand us doesn't mean we're wrong.
 

People who had coloured names certainly did not know or help more than non-coloured names.

On average they most certainly did. Philly, Phantom, Skarn, Valkryst to name a few. Steff and Schlumpf count too as their Developer color helped distinguish them from being only moderators.

Polls like this will always bias towards the many getting their epeen back.

Yes of course, and those people are also the most active members and most frequent contributors. They're also the people who have been around the longest and helped build this community.

As far as schlumpf's ramble is concerned, I'll once again state that nobody really cares about the banners underneath the names. And it's a part of WoW emulation culture to use colors for usergroups. Nobody here is confused about who is a moderator. There is a legend at the bottom of the page.