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Why so little content for >4.x.x?
« on: June 27, 2015, 03:16:45 pm »
Hey everyone!
I've been on modcraft for approximately 8,5 months now and I noticed that 90% of all the content (including guides, releases, etc) are for 3.3.5 or older versions, and it doesnt make sense to me. I always thought modding is a way to bring new stuff into the game that blizz havent, but why at the same time not use the stuff they did? Obviously, the 5.x.x area can be considered mostly undiscovered, but why ignore cata? Everyday I see giant amount of cata>3.x.x conversions, which shows that the content from Cata is demanded, so why not use cata as a starting poin and then add up to it? I know that cata is very different from wotlk (e.g. dbc structure), but shouldnt modding evolve?

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Re: Why so little content for >4.x.x?
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2015, 03:38:25 pm »
The emus that are available for expansions higher than wotlk are so broken, that they are not worth spending time modding on. We also know alot more about 3.3.5 than 4.3.4 for example.
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Re: Why so little content for >4.x.x?
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2015, 03:53:51 pm »
335 is better and more easier to edit
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Re: Why so little content for >4.x.x?
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2015, 05:15:51 pm »
Quote from: "Ghaster"
The emus that are available for expansions higher than wotlk are so broken, that they are not worth spending time modding on. We also know alot more about 3.3.5 than 4.3.4 for example.
Thats what Im talking about. People choose the easy way instead of trying to evolve.
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Re: Why so little content for >4.x.x?
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2015, 05:29:20 pm »
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The emus that are available for expansions higher than wotlk are so broken, that they are not worth spending time modding on. We also know alot more about 3.3.5 than 4.3.4 for example.
Thats what Im talking about. People choose the easy way instead of trying to evolve.

The community evolves. But the development of emus for >3.3.5 is hard and therefore is slow.
And then, with good emus, you still have to develop the tools so the modding community can thrive. It is also a huge and often hard task.
That's not the "easy" way, that's just the best way that has been found so far.
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Re: Why so little content for >4.x.x?
« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2015, 06:05:05 pm »
TrinityCore officially dropped support for Cata and MoP. They will never be developed and there is no point in modding them anymore.
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Re: Why so little content for >4.x.x?
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2015, 06:29:52 pm »
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TrinityCore officially dropped support for Cata and MoP
Thats a big shame( Why did they? And what are they saying about newer ones e.g. WoD?
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Re: Why so little content for >4.x.x?
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2015, 06:36:32 pm »
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I totally agree with you, since 2011-2012, i'm only modding on Cataclysm, since fall2014 i'm modding on WoD.

I have a private wod server with mapping, yes mapping in 6.x is possible via noggit and a 3.3.5 client, new weapons content, new skins, etc etc....


In my mind, modders have to follow the players, Not the reverse.
3.3.5 is ugly as fuck, and i'm pissed of still watching 3.3.5 stuff in 2015.

Modders are so lazy and want the easy way... that's why i think everything stay on this version...


I'm ready for haters comments.
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Re: Why so little content for >4.x.x?
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2015, 06:48:05 pm »
Im glad you agree, Rangorn, because it means not only noobs like myself, but also professional moders share this opinion and there might still be hope for the great future of modding)
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Re: Why so little content for >4.x.x?
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2015, 06:51:17 pm »
I forgot to mention PhilipTNG/ATB and everything he has done (tutoriels, video, show-off, programs etc...)
Maybe with his work, some people will try recents versions, i hope :]
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Re: Why so little content for >4.x.x?
« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2015, 07:45:03 pm »
its causet by Expansions it selfs <<<

Vanil ? rly old one ... potencial is really low
TBC ? better but still its second oldest version of wow
LK - Here we go wow became better adn it THIS  tiem appeared most of modding tools so everyone now sticks to LK
Cata came out and wow becamse something else since Hp were raised to 100k not much ppl likes this etc ....
i want to say that i just dont care about expansion that was lame and that same about PANDAS ! THE MOST *sekfepfjegoweg* expansion ...
WOD ? why not .. but i stick to LK cuz everyone is playing LK we can gete everything to LK all servers i know are LK and system is easy WOD is harder to edit ? idk ...
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Re: Why so little content for >4.x.x?
« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2015, 09:04:04 pm »
Where is the difference ? Create something new in 335 or 4xx or 5xx and also 6xx..its the same..you try to create things that are absolut new. So why not choose the easy way (335)? Thats not laziness, thats smart. You choose the hard way with no benefit instead using the "full supported" 335 content, with scripts, development, tools and a very important point, interested people.
No one like to play on a cata server, and that with a good reason ;)
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Re: Why so little content for >4.x.x?
« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2015, 09:07:28 pm »
If you guys really want people to switch to WoD, then please reveal the secret of WoD modding. Last time I checked, nobody here knows how to create patches with the new client.

I any case, staying at WotLK is not lazy. As bizzlesnaff says, it is smart.
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Re: Why so little content for >4.x.x?
« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2015, 09:18:20 pm »
I agree with you rangorn etc,WOTLK has been outdated for a longer time than people admit, I'd happily go and work with WOD if there was an easy way of converting ADTs without serious fuck-ups. Please show us your 6.0.0 content and I'll try it myself.
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Re: Why so little content for >4.x.x?
« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2015, 09:36:09 pm »
Actaully, the __main__ reason no one is doing mods for later expansion is the lack of tools. It is pain in the ass to get your models or zones upconverted to these versions without any bugs.
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