I agree, it shouldn't need locked. But there's a certain line of ruthless flaming and dehumanizing that you just shouldn't cross. What's been said just now is by far the cruelest and most fucked up thing I have ever read on Modcraft.

Yes, it is. But honestly both of you, Milly and Skarn, you don't feel the way you was posting here was forcing that ?

And take this as a funny sidenote:

Skarn was blaming me I would do agism. To be honest I didn't know that word in English, I had to translate it first. Even in German (Altersdiskriminierung) I find it funny.

Wasn't it you both that was telling about old guys, 50+ old ? As far as I know here are quite a lot of well reputated users 40+ and even 50+. Isn't blaming that people not also agism ? No answer needed ;-)

Locking this topic viewtopic.php?f=29&t=9939 is a little bit against the rights of a free speech, isn't it ?

Sometime things have to be told. But they don't need to put in stone.

Me(Milly) and Magnus came to peaceful terms just now

I take this as an apology and accept it.

However locking a topic in a continuous discussion so fast is imho not the right way.

I vote to delete the whole topic (incl. this). The participating users had their fun. What has been said was said. There is no reason to let such things to stay for the rest of the life.

Personally I'm surprised that it's allowed here to advertise a competitors website. So I vote to delete the whole topic incl. the opening post.

I feel sorry that the small community is split in two parts in this way but still wish the new project all the best.

Milly, speaking about CSS, RSS, domain names (and may other technical stuff I already have forgotten) is seldom connected to any personal emotional feeling against somebody on my side.

Why should I get about such things in personal touch with anybody ?

If it's true what Skarn is telling that you have archived my postings, please reread it once more in a quite and moderate mood.

I'm absolutely sure you will see nothing else than technical stuff. Either I proposed something or I have asked what the reasons are of some decisions that are made at that time. I never was demanding, why I should ? It's not my project, nor I'm paying for it .

And the fact that you followed some of my proposals proofs in my eyes that they was helpful. I'm glad to see that.

Even if you have may misunderstand some words of my text lacks to my bad English you have seen that ALL postings had only one goal: To improve your project, to make it better for the target you have told me in Skype.

@Skarn

You are not right, Skarn, I told about young people, not even used the word kids. Please, if you cite me, than do it right.

In the beginning I assured my support for these young people and liked the ideas for a restart in the modding scene.

And I told 'young people' because I was chatting about 3-4 hours with Milly in Skype and know his age. He IS young and it would be a pleasure to me to work with people in this age. I do it every day, by the way. There is absolutely nothing negative in young people, vice versa.

About the other things you tell ... I let it stay as it is. Everyone can read here my posts and can decide if even one of these posts was unfriendly or not helpful. At least I tried to do my best to help where ever I can and my limited time allows me.

And about marketing ....
I'm not against marketing. But marketing is advertising your own products on the marketplace. Normally it's not allowed to advertise products or services on the competitors place or to contact offensive customers/users of the competitors. However that's my personal opinion, I'm not owner of Modcraft.

All I know about this 'new website' is the following:

Since months their owners make guerilla marketing and try to steal Modcraft users. They contact people here by PM and Skype and try to make bad mood against Steff and Schlumpf from Modcraft.

In the beginning I assured my support for these young people and liked the ideas for a restart in the modding scene.

I gave them in their forum in a friendly manner a lot of detailed hints and tips about website issues, CSS fixes, RSS stuff and shared my thougths about their old domain name which was not optimal in my opinion. I told them point by point why I suggest to choose another name. I offered them my help in German translation of some part of the website.

All what I got from them was blaming me as an idiot who doesn't know anything about everything. They spit on my public forum posts in way I never saw in the last 20 years. They blamed me personally in Skype. And they kick me out of their community with really verbally harassing words. I was really very very shocked about such a childish behaviour.

After looking few weeks later I have seen that they have implemented all my proposals and even changed their domain name.

Of course there was no 'Thank you' nor any excuses.

Go away Milly and shame over you.

In most countries you are NOT allowed to distribute copyright protected content in any way. This includes textures, models, databases (dbc), data collections, programs, scripts and more.

Therefore the service of a p-server, the distribution of MPQs and the content of most websites is not allowed.

Thanks to Blizzard Activision they do not pursue small and free p-server projects atm.

What the heck you want to do ?