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Re: Deathwing wont fly
« Reply #15 on: May 19, 2014, 10:47:15 pm »
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i dont understand any of this

Did you open the .mpq in the 010 editor or am I reading that wrong?
yeah, but even if i need to open the .m2, still would have no clue what to do.
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Re: Deathwing wont fly
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2014, 01:12:18 am »
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i dont understand any of this

Did you open the .mpq in the 010 editor or am I reading that wrong?
yeah, but even if i need to open the .m2, still would have no clue what to do.
use template viewtopic.php?f=59&t=828
ive tried. i load up the templat then the m2 and it just has two separate windows for both items.
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Re: Deathwing wont fly
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2014, 03:02:40 am »
Perhaps you'd be better off asking a forum that specializes in doing mods on Live rather than trying to ask here, which is a community that will use all available tools including a private server Core/DB to see through to our goal...../sigh... it probably can't be done if you're trying to do it on live.  And there's a big chance that rarely if anyone here has tried to apply their mods on Live in the first instance.

I'm not saying it's not possible to do it without Core assists, but it's probably a bit difficult and you will most likely receive no direct help on the matter here. So again, it'd be best if you asked people who are tailored to the thing you are requesting.

And if I do say so myself, you come off as very uptight, high maintenance, and overall very annoyed with anyone who tries to help you but their answers don't actually help you, you seem to forget the fact that they tried to help you, I've seen your posts prior to this and many times this is the vibe you send off.  Mayhap this is the reason why you've not been given clear answers and also you come off very impatient.

If that's not your goal in what you want people to perceive you as, maybe you should put in a bit of effort to be courteous even if the "help" doesn't actually help you.

You seem to forget or don't realize that 90% of the community here are people here doing this stuff for fun and they all specialize in their own desires. Also we are people that are learning, that are exploring and researching and trading information with one another. You should Not become impatient because someone can't help you, they are as you, unfamiliar with the task at hand and are merely trying to give you advice that might help you resolve your query.

The fact that these people even attempted to give you advice, you should be grateful for it, they could all always just ignore you, but no, they do not, and the reason for it is because they want to see you achieve your goals, they see some sort of potential in you and anyone else they may give advice or ideas to.  We are all born into this world knowing nothing but it is through this type of information trading and acknowledgements that causes our growth. So be thankful, be grateful, and well.. positive for a change.

Regards, ^_^
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Re: Deathwing wont fly
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2014, 04:07:08 am »
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i dont understand any of this

Did you open the .mpq in the 010 editor or am I reading that wrong?
yeah, but even if i need to open the .m2, still would have no clue what to do.
use template viewtopic.php?f=59&t=828
ive tried. i load up the templat then the m2 and it just has two separate windows for both items.
Like what anthoney said ma friend and there is no many tut for 010 I cant help Im not a good teacher but when you open the temp in a separate windows click on F5 for running the temp and I don't have any  :idea:  about animation
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Re: Deathwing wont fly
« Reply #19 on: May 20, 2014, 05:19:02 am »
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Perhaps you'd be better off asking a forum that specializes in doing mods on Live rather than trying to ask here, which is a community that will use all available tools including a private server Core/DB to see through to our goal...../sigh... it probably can't be done if you're trying to do it on live.  And there's a big chance that rarely if anyone here has tried to apply their mods on Live in the first instance.

I'm not saying it's not possible to do it without Core assists, but it's probably a bit difficult and you will most likely receive no direct help on the matter here. So again, it'd be best if you asked people who are tailored to the thing you are requesting.

And if I do say so myself, you come off as very uptight, high maintenance, and overall very annoyed with anyone who tries to help you but their answers don't actually help you, you seem to forget the fact that they tried to help you, I've seen your posts prior to this and many times this is the vibe you send off.  Mayhap this is the reason why you've not been given clear answers and also you come off very impatient.

If that's not your goal in what you want people to perceive you as, maybe you should put in a bit of effort to be courteous even if the "help" doesn't actually help you.

You seem to forget or don't realize that 90% of the community here are people here doing this stuff for fun and they all specialize in their own desires. Also we are people that are learning, that are exploring and researching and trading information with one another. You should Not become impatient because someone can't help you, they are as you, unfamiliar with the task at hand and are merely trying to give you advice that might help you resolve your query.

The fact that these people even attempted to give you advice, you should be grateful for it, they could all always just ignore you, but no, they do not, and the reason for it is because they want to see you achieve your goals, they see some sort of potential in you and anyone else they may give advice or ideas to.  We are all born into this world knowing nothing but it is through this type of information trading and acknowledgements that causes our growth. So be thankful, be grateful, and well.. positive for a change.

Regards, ^_^
uhm sorry for sounding like a asshole...just letting you know, i do this for fun. i am successful in model editing, check ownedcore.com . im android32. i just have issues here and there. and btw the only part that matters weather im doing wotlk or live makes no difference. in 10 min i can release all my model swaps and edits to work with wotlk. what the REAL problem was is that i wasnt running a private server. and you said people specialize in certain stuff, well trying to find the guy who specializes in animation swapping in hex.
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Re: Deathwing wont fly
« Reply #20 on: May 20, 2014, 05:49:20 am »
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well trying to find the guy who specializes in animation swapping in hex.

A Page out of Anthony's Diary:

Going from memory when I had to do that Yellow Chromatic Dragon mount, animations are stored in ordered chunks, not just simple ID's.  I had swapped out the swimming animation for the flying animation so it would work correctly.  It wasn't as simple as swapping ID's, you gotta swap chunks around as well.

Naturally each animation chunk differs in sizes, you can't merely copy and paste since you'd either have extra data or overwrite another animation's data set.  Only way I managed to get around this was to in a sense re-write the M2 by slapping the re-ordered chunks to the ends of the files and the relocation address headers as well, needless to say it made the file larger as in a sense added new data to it along with other headaches.

There probably is a easier method for doing it but I don't know of it.  Because the way how it is set right now all goes down in a line, like a rhythm from start to finish, if you were to try to re-order them the way they are right now, you'd break the pattern atleast that's my hypothesis from the results I had received when I did it, so I in turn re-arranged it all. some thousands of bytes of data then repasted it all at the end..then set the headers to work with it.

I never said anything about it because one, it's complicated and way too much for me to even want to give it another shot, and two...people would either want to learn or want me to redo it to something else... Even if someone paid me to do it, I wouldn't.  I do a lot of things that I end up not saying anything about because they are researched for my own personal desires and generally most of it is completed using archaic and caveman methods.

EDIT:
The M2 template doesn't cover all of the M2 btw, of the animation data it covers is just some of it, the actual animation data itself isn't interpreted. and the timespan of fixing that one mount took myself about a month's time.  But maybe with your passion, you may be able to pull it off in a shorter span and make your own method.

Also the M2 Template was written for Interpreting the WoTLK M2 file, so yeah.. Deathwing is a Cata file and required converting to work in WoTLK which also means some things were either deleted or made to be ignored so it'd work.
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Re: Deathwing wont fly
« Reply #21 on: May 20, 2014, 10:50:59 am »
Iirc, there is a lookup table for animation ids. You would have to swap that too when just swapping ids.
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Re: Deathwing wont fly
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2014, 02:38:24 pm »
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Then Go to Server and in NPC option Set Anim for Fly
Or change Model of DeathWing by 010 Editor in AnimTable
Change A_Walk to ?A_Fly?

Thats what i said in 1st reply.......... just go into 010 and change those anims
change Walk+stand to fly ... (stand x3 because of his trigering)
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Re: Deathwing wont fly
« Reply #23 on: May 24, 2014, 02:57:56 am »
how i load a template?
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Re: Deathwing wont fly
« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2014, 03:33:23 am »
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how i load a template?
put the m2 into 010 and then got up and click template and then find m2template and click it and then click F5 finish :)
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Re: Deathwing wont fly
« Reply #25 on: May 24, 2014, 05:32:44 am »
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how i load a template?

You'll go a lot further in modding if you can learn to figure things out on your own rather than asking for help on every little detail.
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Re: Deathwing wont fly
« Reply #26 on: May 24, 2014, 03:26:42 pm »
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how i load a template?

You'll go a lot further in modding if you can learn to figure things out on your own rather than asking for help on every little detail.
i tried google and stuff. i went to template menu and clicked run template. just got a error. no where on internet does it say press f5.

I was able to open it once and did some edits. need to go back and fix some stuff and set anim to fly walk. but when i try and load up template again i get
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Re: Deathwing wont fly
« Reply #27 on: May 24, 2014, 06:31:17 pm »
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how i load a template?

You'll go a lot further in modding if you can learn to figure things out on your own rather than asking for help on every little detail.
i tried google and stuff. i went to template menu and clicked run template. just got a error. no where on internet does it say press f5.

Maybe not on the internet, but it says so quite clearly in the menus of the program itself.  Funny what a little bit of exploring and trial and error might yield, huh?

And there's zero difference between clicking run template and pressing F5 in 010 editor.  F5 is merely a shortcut though your post seems to suggest otherwise.
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Re: Deathwing wont fly
« Reply #28 on: May 24, 2014, 10:15:52 pm »
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how i load a template?

You'll go a lot further in modding if you can learn to figure things out on your own rather than asking for help on every little detail.
i tried google and stuff. i went to template menu and clicked run template. just got a error. no where on internet does it say press f5.

Maybe not on the internet, but it says so quite clearly in the menus of the program itself.  Funny what a little bit of exploring and trial and error might yield, huh?

And there's zero difference between clicking run template and pressing F5 in 010 editor.  F5 is merely a shortcut though your post seems to suggest otherwise.
so then can you explain my problem above? i did what you said i should do.
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Re: Deathwing wont fly
« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2014, 12:39:36 am »
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so then can you explain my problem above?

User error.
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