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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 11, 2015, 06:26:04 pm »
Quote from: "Magnus"
Be careful Milly, I have the full Skype log what you have discussed with me and in which way. ;-)
Especially what you told about your good old friend Steff.

However I'm happy that you have followed my lunatic proposals and improved your website and project name/domain in that way I suggested.

I wish you all the best with your new project. I think people can get their own impression about the language you are using here.

BTW: And of course the whole world is hating you. Not only Schlumpf, keep serious, please  :-)

If they exist, I honestly don't remember. And my Skype doesn't have logs on it, so.

Anyway thank you for the kind words. I'm sure that everyone in the world hates me.

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 11, 2015, 06:10:23 pm »
Quote from: "Magnus"
All I know about this 'new website' is the following:

Since months their owners make guerilla marketing and try to steal Modcraft users. They contact people here by PM and Skype and try to make bad mood against Steff and Schlumpf from Modcraft.

In the beginning I assured my support for these young people and liked the ideas for a restart in the modding scene.

I gave them in their forum in a friendly manner a lot of detailed hints and tips about website issues, CSS fixes, RSS stuff and shared my opinion about their old domain name which was not optimal in my mind. I told them point by point why I suggest to choose another name. I offered them my help in German translation of some part of the website.

All what I got from them was blaming me as an idiot who doesn't know anything about everything. They spit on my public forum posts in way I never saw in the last 20 years. They blamed me personally in Skype. And they kick me out of their community with really verbally harassing words. I was really very very shocked about such a childish behaviour.

After looking few weeks later I have seen that they have implemented all my proposals and even changed their domain name.

Of course there was no 'Thank you' nor any excuses.

Go away Milly and shame over you.

First off, I don't agree with Steff on many things including WoW Modding but he is a cool guy and has been my friend for many months now. He has even helped me with learning some German. Schlumpf hates me, sure, but I don't hate him. We pick fun with him often, but what does that have to do with this website? Nothing.

And I'd like to assure anyone who reads this, let it be known that Magnus is a lunatic. I don't know if it is an English language barrier or not, but when he came onto our site he started saying extremely hurtful and offensive things to us, not in the manner that he described.

Yes he made valid suggestions, but in such heartless ways. We told him we appreciate the feedback but that he needs to understand that we're not even in Beta phase yet. And still, he criticizes relentlessly in a very impolite manner. Eventually he goes too far and I ask him to stop being so fucking negative.

He flips out, starts calling me as some heartless crazed fool, just as he is doing here. He is wrong. I am so tired of this man thinking that he is better than everyone and more intelligent just because he's 50-some years old. Just keep on calling us kids and young people. It really shows your character.

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Miscellaneous / Re: Weather modding in 1.12.1 client.
« on: December 09, 2015, 07:15:00 pm »
Well, I'm sorry that I don't have a direct answer for you. But it seems like you're looking for a client-side answer to a server-side problem. I don't think it works that way. Have your checked the source files for your emulator?

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Looks wonderful :) Better than anything I've done as of yet.

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 01, 2015, 07:25:51 pm »
Well, we can't steal the name Modcraft. Nor would I want it now that Minecraft exists.

Also, the reasoning behind "Model Changing" has already been explained here.

Though, I agree with the other things you said. Sitting on Wrath isn't necessarily good.

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 01, 2015, 03:21:05 pm »
Quote from: "Ohai"
You're right I did think at first it was a new modcraft realized later its a different site, but the first post was kinda misguiding in that way, but still I think you rushed a few things. Name model changing, wowmods wowmodding or something would be more appropriate, and was looking at the website again this morning that slider lol, you have it on every single page I got on a profile page and it was even there.. I just cant belive 4 web designers said that was a good idea. You wont find 1 website on the internet with something like that, but I dont want to sound negative I support you and the whole initiave

We really didn't rush anything at all though. It took us 5 months to decide on model-changing.net. It went from craftymods, to bnet-dev, to model-changing. The first one was never meant to be taken seriously so don't judge :P

But the point is, we would brainstorm; like every week. Every one of us would spam our chat coming up with names. None of them stuck. We even created two public threads on our forums requesting website names. Nobody ever showed up with a decent idea. And there were TONs of ideas, but they all sucked. When we decided on bnet-dev, we actually had someone who came on and was furious about how shitty it was. This sunk in.

In truth, our website has actually been ready to release for 2 months now. What held us back for so long was a name. We didn't have a name that we were proud of and felt comfortable with. Eventually we decided on Model Changing.

And I understand your concerns, it's a weird name, but it's not meant literally. It's a legacy term taken from the lore of WoW Modding. People like MC Addicts (Model Changing Addicts) were the founders of this passion. There is also Hyakki's French modding forum called MC Revolution.

There's only so many different website possibilities using the terms WoW, Modding, Mods, and so on. They're all super generic as spik96 said, or they're cheesy sounding like Adjective WoW for a private server name. And if you don't choose one of these generic names, you at least need to choose something that is relevant enough for people to recognize the product or service that you offer. Model Changing fits perfectly.

Moving on to concerns about the slider: Our initial plan was to only have it on the front page. We originally had a bridged system using WordPress and phpBB3.1 which we eventually trashed because it was garbage. However we made every attempt to give the forum a good design without using the slider, and it just didn't work.

The entire page would jump around each time you click through the navigation, because adding/removing the slider depending on the page also increases/decreases the page's size by like 50%. It was an awful clunky system. and we wanted a smooth and consistent feel to our website. So you know everything was made to work in unity. Also, since our navigation is tied to the very top of the page, it left us little to no choice. There just aren't many good forum designs that involve having the navigation at the top. Modcraft for example has a banner before the navigation.

I understand you have a lot of strong opinions especially coming from a web designer perspective. But I assure you we're not toddlers drooling over each other. We spent months on this and carefully considered every possibility while working with our initial plans. Your solution seems to be to throw 6 months of work away, switch to a different CMS, and get a free theme from the satanic cash-farm that people call Theme Forest. I'm sorry... but no... That's just insane.

Let's put this on record: We really love our website name, and we love our slider as well. These two things make up a large portion of our website's identity and are the characteristics that we've grown quite fond of over the past few months. We will not change them. If enough people dislike the slider, we'll see about adding a button to hide it.

I appreciate you wanting to avoid negativity. Let's do that, please. Everyone has differences  ;)

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 01, 2015, 07:47:41 am »
Quote from: "MountainLion"
This entire thread is beginning to look like advertising to me.
Well, uh... I thought this was pretty obvious. Nothing wrong with promoting something in the appropriate forum category.

Quote from: "MountainLion"
Sometimes simple & easy does it, unless you're main targets are kids.
Do you really need to stoop to that level? :| https://youtu.be/nFwtbNPb6x8?t=5m30s

Quote from: "MountainLion"
Regardless and as Schlumpf already mentioned, none of what has been said or discussed has to do with the decline of activity within this area of the modding scene.
Schlumpf did not even say that, and I think you're wrong.

Everything else you've mentioned here is a topic of the best practices for WoW Modding, and is only slightly related to our website discussion. They're valid concerns, but they deserve an entirely new thread.

I'll emphasize once more, a new website is not a remedy it is merely a medicine.

Question: Can a new site bring in new people and indirectly improve the modding scene? Answer: Yes. Yes it can. Will it? We will see. But I think that's enough incentive to stop repeating what has already been said and saying that our ideas won't work.

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: November 30, 2015, 09:55:39 pm »
You're right. We've planned social media from the start. I haven't had time yet for it though.

Our social media buttons are already at the bottom of our page. Not functional yet.

Hard to get around to these sorts of things when you work 30 hours a week on top of uni.

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: November 30, 2015, 09:42:44 pm »
I agree schlumpf. I actually like the shoutbox for these reasons, though.

And yeah, colors has nothing to do with inactivity. It's just a bit of discomfort.

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: November 30, 2015, 09:10:22 pm »
I disagree

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: November 30, 2015, 08:32:36 pm »
This was made using the Invision Power Suite. Also, we're still new so we haven't really gotten around to a lot of things. The main purpose of the slider is actually to hold text and link to featured projects and so on. However, this was one of our ambitions during our WordPress/phpBB phase, and I'm not totally sure how the new slider works. It's a third party slider added in entirely separate from the Invision Power platform.

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: November 30, 2015, 08:07:54 pm »
Quote from: "Ohai"
As a web designer I would like to add a few things no offense to anyone its a nice initiative and this is just some friendly advice, 1st functionally the slider on the top isn't really necessary you should try composing the front page to hold all relevant categories up front as soon as the page loads without using the scroller, you can manage art/design in the free space around the forum interface.
Second thing thing design wise the logo is really bad is that a comic sans font or something?:) I can make a nice logo for you, this is the most recent one I made for a friends private server
Yes, the logo is really bad. I made it in a hurry and can't afford to pay people anymore, because of Uni. I can assure you it's definitely not Comic Sans though. As for the slider, we decided it is necessary after spending about 3 months trying to find an alternative to it. During that time we've asked for feedback from dozens of people, consulted 4 different web designers, and brain-stormed plenty ourselves. I also went to school for web design over a short time before quitting because I didn't like it and financial reasons.

Btw.. we really, really love the slider :) Thank you for the thoughts though

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: November 30, 2015, 04:44:28 pm »
Quote from: "schlumpf"
Stuff will be posted at both sites until one of them dies -- and i probably will be modcraft. Reputation, Shoutbox and a new design won't change the state of modding. That 800€ would better have been spent on supporting some developer or reverse engineer in doing/finding stuff for the community.
Well, I won't disagree with you. That money could have been spent on a hundred different things, such as my college education. A new website doesn't guarantee us anything. But if we're lucky, and we actually put forth effort,  it might breathe some life back into the modding community. I think it's already starting in some ways.

Hopefully this might attract some developers and improve our prospects on the modding side of thing, maybe not. In any case, as I mentioned in the post you linked, we're still basically fucked as far as emulators are concerned.

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Level Design / Re: [Question] Open MPQ for re-design
« on: November 30, 2015, 02:27:06 pm »
Search it

Do Beginner tutorial

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Random / Re: Successfully Decompiled wow 3.3.5a
« on: November 29, 2015, 06:16:57 pm »
I don't know how you go from insulting peoples intelligence, to actually giving in to this.

This is fake and dead for almost 2 years. Why has this ungodly thread been unearthed?

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