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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 14, 2015, 09:48:54 pm »
Quote from: "MountainLion"
I wonder if we should go write a post like this one on your website

I don't know, maybe you should. And now that the thread has derailed again, let's play a forum game :D

Whoever posts the best Tapir picture within the next 24 hours wins. I'll go first!


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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 14, 2015, 09:38:46 pm »
Quote from: "schlumpf"
Just because it isn't written there, "don't be a dick" is not not part of the rules. Also, fuck the rules, this is a dictatorship, as I heard.

Tbh, I forgot how to even edit that page, and quite frankly, I don't care.

So uh, what's the deal? I don't care either. That's the point.

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 14, 2015, 05:04:13 pm »
Thank you for your thoughts Magnus. Though, a few things I should mention. I checked and double-checked the rules page before posting here. Because I agree with you, it is not normal for owners to let this kind of post live. But there is no problem, and it is a good opportunity to advertise. If admins change their mind, that is okay.

Also, this project didn't start because of a big fight like you say. I did have a private argument with schlumpf, but that was a personal problem, not the reason behind the website. It was a motivator. The real reasons are stated in this thread.

And again I would say that I am fine with schlumpf these days. I as a matter of fact enjoy his witty company now.

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 14, 2015, 12:15:13 pm »
Quote from: "Mr. DK"
And about thr 4-5 guys you are talking about. Those are the standart guys who downlaod noggit somewhere encounter a problem and then nned help fixing it and never return. You can find those guys in the Noggit sectiona swell.

Nope they're people I've talked to on Skype who are really excited about modding and just needed a hand ^^

And you're right, we wouldn't merge back into the old site. It goes against everything we've worked for. But it's still an offer of good intentions we weren't required to make to begin with.

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 14, 2015, 11:44:06 am »
Hi guys, I've been ignoring this thread because I don't want to read it and say something stupid again... Sorry for calling you a lunatic Magnus. I might say things like that when I'm mad but it's nothing.

In any case, you all keep bringing up some really good points, but they've already been addressed many times in the past. You're maybe right that two communities is not ideal, but the offer to work together was made months ago. And the offer to merge is still negotiable. We're not enemies. And to assume that the new website won't bring in new blood is not an unreasonable assumption, but it is a false one. We've already got quite a few new people. Albeit only between 2-5, but still people who are eager to learn modding.

And I wanted to clarify that a website is not magical. A website does not fix problems on its own. But what our site has done is brought a new spirit to WoW Modding. This thread itself is a complete riot, and that's a good thing!  ;) It reminds people we exist. Many people have told us that they're coming back because new things are happening. People want change. It's a breath of fresh life for the modding community, and good things will come :)

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Neo / Re: Neo - A WoW Development Suite
« on: December 14, 2015, 04:31:55 am »
Really awesome. My favorite part is the interface. Modern look ^^

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 11, 2015, 10:52:08 pm »
Quote from: "MountainLion"
Oh but of course I realize this... I hope you can see how fucking annoying it is to be this way. Awesome, let's move on! ;)

Believe me I won't deny for a second that I'm stubborn as a mule. Glad we got that out of the way.

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 11, 2015, 10:48:19 pm »
You realize though that the thing you're doing right now is the same thing you accuse me of? Being stubborn, defensive, and always wanting to clarify your point of view? You keep coming back always wanting the last laugh. You just don't stop. Yet you accuse me of the exact same thing. Is it okay for you to do it, but not me?

Please, respect the fact that everyone else here has agreed to move on and stop flaming. This is ridiculous.

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 11, 2015, 10:16:56 pm »
Quote from: "Magnus"
For technical reason ? Or because of a kind of forum politics ?

Because people spent a lot of time and effort to post their opinions here. It's not fair to ruin it for everyone just because there are a few people who started a flame war. Though in the end it is up to the admins.

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 11, 2015, 10:03:12 pm »
I agree, it shouldn't need locked. But there's a certain line of ruthless flaming and dehumanizing that you just shouldn't cross. What's been said just now is by far the cruelest and most fucked up thing I have ever read on Modcraft.

Also, MountainLion, this thread is identical on both websites. So I don't see what you're saying, sorry.

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 11, 2015, 09:29:54 pm »
Do you even read the things that I've said here? I'm not the one causing drama! People are stopping by and shitting all over this thread because they don't like it. Me and Magnus came to peaceful terms just now and you're the one who has to come back and re-fuel the drama. I'm merely standing my ground.

YOU are the problem. And fuck you, I was never banned to begin with. I was only given warning. I don't know why schlumpf said that. And no, I would not create more accounts. And no I would not make another thread. Quit assuming such things about me. You do not know me. You have no right to be mod on this site.

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 11, 2015, 07:43:07 pm »
When I say emotion, I don't mean it personally. It's like the difference between abruptly saying "No" and politely saying "No thanks". It again goes back to my suspicion of language barrier. But these things can quickly become extremely offensive especially when the internet lacks tone and body language when communicating with others. Like you said, it may be your bad English. And it may be cultural differences. I don't really know.

And okay, your advices did help. At least one that I can think of, which is the domain name. Really I was never fully comfortable with it though because it was chosen mostly out of desperation. You sort of gave the extra push. Anyway thanks. But there's no need for bloodshed. I'm not arguing anymore.

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 11, 2015, 07:17:24 pm »
Quote from: "Magnus"
They both asked me for help. I shared my technical (and only technical) thoughts with them in a forum. There was no reason to react like that.

Well in that sense, technical thoughts are entirely logic. And logic lacks emotion. You said what you wanted to say, but did so in an emotionless and demanding way. Logos and Ethos are nothing without Pathos.

I can't make you understand the way I feel. But I'd at least ask that you respect it. I was offended, Skarn was offended, Axel was offended. Everyone was upset about it. It doesn't make us bad people.

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 11, 2015, 06:51:13 pm »
I'm civil as long as you're civil Magnus. You helped us out a bit, yes. Thanks, I guess? We just didn't appreciate the way you did and we got pissed about it. I don't know why that = war.

I agree that advertising on a competitor's website shouldn't be allowed. But if Modcraft is our competitor, and they have a rules page, and that page says nothing about advertising, then can you blame us? Also not to mention that posts like iMithos's was allowed to live for weeks. In any case we contacted only a few people here. We have huge Skype groups as well.

By the way, I downloaded a cool program that lets me view my Skype chat logs. I found our conversation, and the only things I read on my part are nice things about Steff. I said he is an okay guy. And I said I was a little upset with him after he yelled at us. That's all I can see here.

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Development and Presentation / Re: A New Website for WoW Modding
« on: December 11, 2015, 06:39:32 pm »
Well schlumpf, when I said that I meant it. But my opinion has changed.

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