Re: Leech - Request Quote Originally Posted by sirfranc i Actually posted screenshots of my work actually, and i always taught people how to model edit.As i said, if the thread gets opened again i'll never release anything anymore, and i'll take my leave from the model editing scene, since this is the situation, it's not a threat, just a statement.Needless to say that other model editors such as Eluo, Limee, and many others, who i always helped when they got leeched and they helped me when i got leeched, will greatly frown upon this decision as some of them are already doing.As i said earlier, screenshots does not equal a release as i see it. If you leave the ME scene then it is ur decision not mine. So they frown upon the decision on having the thread deleted, damn I knew model editors were whiners(shown on MANY COUNTLESS occassions) but this beats me lol. Quote Originally Posted by sirfranc You're wrong on thinking that THIS KIND OF STUFF is what brings life, because when one model editor gets leeched or ripped of his stuff like that the other model editors as well are less likely to trust the community and release their work, and if you don't believe me, check yourself how many things are actually downloadable between the model edits, if i am forced to release my stuff, i don't see why everybody else hasn't to. This is just going to make the model editors to be more harsh and less trustful ( i speak about the real model editors, not the 2 tree edit noobs that will be happy to download my stuff from a spammer - because he's a spammer, not an actual user - and claim it as their own, this is not model editing, is a noob fest) the result will be: even less stuff downloadable if that's what happens AND the community is not giving a damn to protect its users interests.Release their work, once again you never released it... and ur signature even says that you wont give out edits. No one is forced to release their stuff, but when it is spread on other sites (bringing ppl there) then we will have it released here, one way or the other. Just as the 100k g/hr post. Since you havent released jack, except some measly screenshots(my opinion) then i dont see it as a problem when that wont change... Quote Originally Posted by sirfranc Said that, do what you want to do, i don't give a damn anymore, i was preparing a 500 mb patch with a ton of new stuff, but this thing happened will just make me NOT release anything, not even on my server (Since they stole it from there) and the result is that everyone is screwed but me, since i can make a new stromgarde 5 times as cool as the ripped one, and i won't never release it, who's got damaged then? not me certainly.LOL the big old ... "Yeah I was planning to release alotta crap, but then this happened and i wont now" sry it gets more and more old everytime we hear that bullshit as staff.. You said earlier that you wouldnt release anything, so why should you have changed ur mind just before this happened.. You can make a big stromgarde, who cares, and not release it - just like you are not releasing the ones you already make.So who is being screwed because of that? ME or MMOwned ?`No cause nothing is changed... You are saying that you dont care, so i will open the thread now. Fact is, we have no idea what sparked panda to release this, just that he said that you guys screwed him over, so why should we trust you and not him?
Originally Posted by sirfranc i Actually posted screenshots of my work actually, and i always taught people how to model edit.As i said, if the thread gets opened again i'll never release anything anymore, and i'll take my leave from the model editing scene, since this is the situation, it's not a threat, just a statement.Needless to say that other model editors such as Eluo, Limee, and many others, who i always helped when they got leeched and they helped me when i got leeched, will greatly frown upon this decision as some of them are already doing.
Originally Posted by sirfranc You're wrong on thinking that THIS KIND OF STUFF is what brings life, because when one model editor gets leeched or ripped of his stuff like that the other model editors as well are less likely to trust the community and release their work, and if you don't believe me, check yourself how many things are actually downloadable between the model edits, if i am forced to release my stuff, i don't see why everybody else hasn't to. This is just going to make the model editors to be more harsh and less trustful ( i speak about the real model editors, not the 2 tree edit noobs that will be happy to download my stuff from a spammer - because he's a spammer, not an actual user - and claim it as their own, this is not model editing, is a noob fest) the result will be: even less stuff downloadable if that's what happens AND the community is not giving a damn to protect its users interests.
Originally Posted by sirfranc Said that, do what you want to do, i don't give a damn anymore, i was preparing a 500 mb patch with a ton of new stuff, but this thing happened will just make me NOT release anything, not even on my server (Since they stole it from there) and the result is that everyone is screwed but me, since i can make a new stromgarde 5 times as cool as the ripped one, and i won't never release it, who's got damaged then? not me certainly.
We here at Modcraft don't laugh at MMowned for no reasons you know
Quote from: "Jack"We here at Modcraft don't laugh at MMowned for no reasons you know That's why i'm going to stick to Modcraft, after that answer i feel most insulted really
decrypt them (even tough i just added a simple .exe check he removed)
and make them downloadable to the public.
deserves to die (he does)
There's almost no way of protectin your work, sadly. The only effective way of protecting your work is by creating your own continent on a new map.
Kurios on MMOwned is still pissed by us whiny model editors -- as we really are.You for example are whining about someone mirroring your own upload and naming it ripping while its just "I went to his site, downloaded a file and pushed it somewhere while also complaining about the one making it.".There is no harm in this except for advertisment of your content as he also claims its awesome.The only bad thing about it is the insult.I love how people hate me for stating the obvious and nothing more.People can still download the oh-so-bad ripoff from your own forums. I left "the scene" two years ago. See you around again soon.
IAnyways, happy modding! And remember; don't show what you don't plan on releasing, that's all I'm going to say
The issue with most "moders" these days (especially WoW moders) is the fact that they have such easy access to tools and materials. The problem is that most of these moders have to much ambition and not enough dedication (and also, lack of planning) to create something, anything, worth while. This is why we see so many poor and sub-par creations by communities like MMOwned, because they have such easy access to the tools. )
Quote from: "ToyokaX"The issue with most "moders" these days (especially WoW moders) is the fact that they have such easy access to tools and materials. The problem is that most of these moders have to much ambition and not enough dedication (and also, lack of planning) to create something, anything, worth while. This is why we see so many poor and sub-par creations by communities like MMOwned, because they have such easy access to the tools. )No for example starcraft and warcraft have much better editors and tools and much easier access to them, and there are much more good maps, models etc. So it's not a problem with having easy access but with having bad tools with people having to less brain and skill to use them probably.
people having to less brain and skill to use them probably.
Take also count of the playerbase of both game, WoW is designed for the masses, especially the little fat kids that want to feel someone with their shining epic gear or fapping on some naked elf.