[WotLk] [QUESTION] [NOGGIT] edit blizzard maps

[schlumpf]

I continued to have fun. This time i deleted original Stormwind map completely from client's patch-3.MPQ. I also removed my custom patch from Data folder. And guess what? Client didn't mind and i teleported to Stormwind without any problems. It's all there still like nothing happened. Even though Noggit can't see the map anymore and you can't access it from the menu.

Isn't this gross? Where is the Stormwind map coming from then?

The client is taking the newest version available for a file. If you delete the version from patch-3, there is still patch-2, patch, common-2 and common. It does _not_ fall back to an older version if the newest version is broken though, as said before. In this case it probably just loaded the older version. Noggit should do exactly the same there.

[monsune]

Noggit didn't find Stormwind map anymore after removing it from patch-3.MPQ and also i went tru all the MPQs you mentioned and can't find Stormwind ADTs anywhere. In fact i checked every single MPQ. It is simply not there. Still client works just fine. I don't understand this at all.

[schlumpf]

Are you sure the client is using the same MPQs as noggit does? Do you maybe have two clients installed?

[monsune]

I checked 2 times. Noggit is taking MPQs from the same client dir i test MPQs on. But hm, would it be possible that wow.exe is using a different data/client path (taken e.g. somewhere from registry) and not the data folder within the dir i'm running it from?

EDIT: Scanned whole registry, removed a few entries (old paths where client isn't at anymore since ages). Didn't help.

I give up. After more than 30 hours of testing various tricks and ideas I find it impossible to edit blizzard maps with Noggit (in a way so edits are visible in client at least). Even though i have seen working maps like that but maybe this is just hidden and not released to public like me, takes some Noggit mod or saved ADTs post-processing or whatever. That seems the only answer here. Maybe someday i will be able to. Thanks for your time again.

[schlumpf]

This is 100% NOT related to Noggit.

[sen8sei]

Westfall

[MountainLion]

In case this helps, you need to make sure wmo's are NOT touching other parts of chunks/adts because if they are, even if you erase and save, it will still spawn the wmo.