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Title: [Question] WoD character models and old model viewer?
Post by: SMBComix on August 27, 2015, 02:30:06 am
Ok, so... I've been looking around for a way to get the new character models to show up in the old model viewers (via porting) so I could make machinima PhotoShop comics set in the past, but with the new models. Unfortunately, I haven't quite been able to find any instructions for this. Does anyone know how?
Title: Re: [Question] WoD character models and old model viewer?
Post by: Chase on August 27, 2015, 02:37:30 am
There is a model view for WoD already. You could use that.
Title: Re: [Question] WoD character models and old model viewer?
Post by: SMBComix on August 27, 2015, 06:10:24 am
Quote from: "Chase"
There is a model view for WoD already. You could use that.

I won't be able to see an HD version of pre-Cataclysm, Sentinel Hill Gryan Stoutmantle, though. Or Deputy Willem. Because like King Varian before them, their original outfits have likely been deleted from the game files. Besides, the current WoW Model Viewer's NPC/item list is woefully incomplete.

Hence why I'm asking for a way to view the new models in the old model viewers; because those are the only ones that'll access the versions of the NPCs I'll need for my projects.
Title: Re: [Question] WoD character models and old model viewer?
Post by: darkvexen on August 27, 2015, 10:54:59 pm
Quote from: "SMBComix"
Quote from: "Chase"
There is a model view for WoD already. You could use that.

I won't be able to see an HD version of pre-Cataclysm, Sentinel Hill Gryan Stoutmantle, though. Or Deputy Willem. Because like King Varian before them, their original outfits have likely been deleted from the game files. Besides, the current WoW Model Viewer's NPC/item list is woefully incomplete.

Hence why I'm asking for a way to view the new models in the old model viewers; because those are the only ones that'll access the versions of the NPCs I'll need for my projects.
well, what i suggest, get a 3.3.5a client or a 4.3.4 and download the new character model patch for the client ( can find them right here in the forums) and then try opening them up.
Title: Re: [Question] WoD character models and old model viewer?
Post by: SMBComix on August 28, 2015, 12:51:35 am
Quote from: "darkvexen"
Quote from: "SMBComix"
Quote from: "Chase"
There is a model view for WoD already. You could use that.

I won't be able to see an HD version of pre-Cataclysm, Sentinel Hill Gryan Stoutmantle, though. Or Deputy Willem. Because like King Varian before them, their original outfits have likely been deleted from the game files. Besides, the current WoW Model Viewer's NPC/item list is woefully incomplete.

Hence why I'm asking for a way to view the new models in the old model viewers; because those are the only ones that'll access the versions of the NPCs I'll need for my projects.
well, what i suggest, get a 3.3.5a client or a 4.3.4 and download the new character model patch for the client ( can find them right here in the forums) and then try opening them up.

Did that already. Didn't work; could only use the Vanilla/TBC models. I was wondering if there was a way to work around that.

And even then, I think what I'd prefer to do, is port ALL the art, NPC data, and item data from Vanilla, TBC, and Wrath into an MOP client that's been modded with the new models, so that way I'd have everything available in one spot without having to jump between viewers. I think that's what the "import MPQ" thing is for, but I'm not sure... I tried it and it wouldn't load Vanilla or TBC MPQs.
Title: Re: [Question] WoD character models and old model viewer?
Post by: spik96 on August 28, 2015, 04:03:32 pm
I don't think they deleted the old outfits. They don't clean their mess of unused models, trust me. Even WoW alpha models are still in Warlords of Draenor.

The line in the DBC, however, have probably changed. But if you explore old DBC and take note of the outfit display IDs you should be able to change your line in your modern game and make an old Varian/Stoutmantle or whatever. Refer to NPC creation tutorials to understand NPC DBCs if you are not sure where you should play with values.
Title: Re: [Question] WoD character models and old model viewer?
Post by: SMBComix on August 28, 2015, 04:43:21 pm
Quote from: "spik96"
I don't think they deleted the old outfits. They don't clean their mess of unused models, trust me. Even WoW alpha models are still in Warlords of Draenor.

The line in the DBC, however, have probably changed. But if you explore old DBC and take note of the outfit display IDs you should be able to change your line in your modern game and make an old Varian/Stoutmantle or whatever. Refer to NPC creation tutorials to understand NPC DBCs if you are not sure where you should play with values.

Thanks for the advice, Spik! I'll have to look into this then. :)

Still, the current WoW Model Viewer (now in release candidate) still has a woefully incomplete NPC and items list, probably due to the CASC file system being so new. I'd still like a way to replace the old models in, say, an MOP client with the new ones for this project, at least until WoD's model viewer is more complete.