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Wrath of the Lich King Modding => Getting started the WoTtLK tutorial => Topic started by: Steff on February 18, 2013, 12:12:29 pm
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It would be cole if you guys give me some feedback here in this thread about the tutorial and also if you use them the translations. Do they help you, can you good and easy follow, do you understand all the points?
I want to make this as good as possible so I need you informations!
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It Really Helped me out with creating stuff in noggit and then patching it,
Thanks steff
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there are many pats in creation. but I cant sit in the more then 20 minutes in front of my pc.
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These are great topics I think they are nice because they take all the useful tutorials and put them in one place for people that need help. Great work Steff!
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Could it be that they are so perfect that you all have no negativ points ;)
Thanks all!
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Sometimes, some details are missing (I speak for the 03, the setup of your server), but nothing serious ^^
Great tutorial, the french community will like it !
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Then tell me the details so i can fix it. It should be as easy as possible to understand.
Also if someone speek the langauge of the translations test also them and tell the translators if some point is not understandebel. And if this point is also in the en version also post it.
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Some users use Mangos, all of them ignore mangos and trinitycore are equal, if they follow the tutorial without using the server contained in the pack, they will be lost :)
I know this is very twisted but I'm not a normal man :D
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Some users use Mangos, all of them ignore mangos and trinitycore are equal, if they follow the tutorial without using the server contained in the pack, they will be lost :)
I know this is very twisted but I'm not a normal man :D
mangos and trinitycore are equal
Well, I disagree. I find Trinity way easier to modify and it's cleaner for the most part.
Concerning the tutorial:
I think it's been well done, as said before, but I can't exactly test it.
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Sorry, I said : it's equal in commands, but some users ignore it ^^
But Trinity is the best emulator now :)
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Yes but this is a tutorial to learn the stuff. So you can use trinity and switch to mangos if you like.
I dont use mangos because I was 2 times in the IRC asking stuff and there where only stupid not gentel answers. What never happend to me at trinity. You cant write a beginners tutorial for all destinations :)
Also the differences will not be to big so people can try to fix it. Till now there is no part of the tutorial that creat new stuff for server. So perhaps we can if i ge to the creat new parts add blocks for the different servers a user of this server will bring into the tutorial.
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Add some new tutorial parts.
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I haven't worked through everything yet, but I have to at least say a big THANK YOU! Thank you so much for putting this together for people like me who are complete noobs at WoW modding!
I'll post some feedback as I work through the series...
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Thanks for your Thank and Thanks for helping if you find some problems.
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I quitted WoW modding and WoW in general for a while, but now I started again because it's really fascinating.
The Tutorials helped me to get an quick overview of all the things again (German Translation).
(Especially Part 2 - a really practical Environment).
But I think I found an Error in Part 2 -> The extraction settings showed in Picture
(http://modcraft.io/tutorial_images/Extraction_options.jpg)
"Delete all existing files in the target directory", I think you should not set this option on all MPQ-Archives. If you do, you will have at the end only the content of "patch-enUS-3.MPQ" in the ClientFiles Folder.
Also a question, is everyone allowed to continue the translation of the tutorials or only the Member who translated the first parts? I could help translating into german ;)
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You are right. I will fix it :)
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So first a big thank you! ^.^
But i Have some Questions 1 ist taht now a problem when i did it with "Delete all existing files in the target directory"?
Ok then i have some points to correct the tut:
(I want to install it in C)
1. @ 01 I think i should be said clear that only the things in the wow folder and not the wow folder should be copied
2. @03 >> Start the following files.
F:WoWModdingTrinityServerxamppmysql_start.bat
F:WoWModdingTrinityServerServerauthserver.exe
F:WoWModdingTrinityServerServerworldserver.exe
This dont work for me
Problem with mysql_start there is a "Verknüpfung" dont know this in english xD in the main folder this one is only usable for F so i had to edit but now if i start without admin it says:
Mysql is trying to start
Please wait...
MySQL is starting with mysqlbinmy.ini (console)
if i start as Admin it says:
Mysql is trying to start
Please wait...
MySQL is starting with mysqlbinmy.ini (console)
The System can not find the path (In german: Das System kann den angegebenen Pfad nicht finden)
MySQl could not be started
If I start authserver.exe or worldserver.exe
It says the programm couldnt start properly (0x000007b)
And this is also the point i cant continue
edit: I checked everything i have the same problem with 01setup_xampp (like mysql_start)
echo ################################# START XAMPP TEST SECTION #################################
[XAMPP]: Test php.exe with phpphp.exe -n -d output_buffering=0 --version ...
phpphp.exe -n -d output_buffering=0 --version
could not find path
[ERROR]: Test php.exe failed !!!
[ERROR]: Perhaps the Microsoft C++ 2008 runtime package is not installed.
[ERROR]: Please try to install the MS VC++ 2008 Redistributable Package from the Mircrosoft page first
[ERROR]: [Her should be the dl link but i cant post it]
################################# END XAMPP TEST SECTION ###################################
and i have Microsoft Visual C++ 2008 SP1 Redistributable Package (x86) installed just to say
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First also thank you for your feedback :)
ist taht now a problem when i did it with "Delete all existing files in the target directory"?
Yes because you now have onlythe last MPQ inside your ClientFiles folder.And not all wow files.
You need to doit again without this option. :(
1. @ 01 I think i should be said clear that only the things in the wow folder and not the wow folder should be copied
Copy the content of a clean WoW 335a game client folder into the both client folders.
Any idea how I can say this more clear?
For the server stuff I have to revisit the files.
But if the shortcut in main folder dont work, just use the MySQL start bat inside the xampp folder.
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Ok so i will redo it
hmm yeah i think i had there some probs because it resets modelviewer after one failes try i worked after an hour of troubles and confusion xDxD
Its the same if i start the .bat without a "Verknüpfung" (tried this before) i there a simple solution or do i have to create a F partition? @.@
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No the Verknüpfung is justa link of the bat in the subfolder. Just delete it and creat your own.Its only there to not open the subfolder.
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Should i make a Dutch translation?
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No the Verknüpfung is justa link of the bat in the subfolder. Just delete it and creat your own.Its only there to not open the subfolder.
Ok so i tried to start with
xampp-control.exe
but Apache wont start because Port 80 is blocked (by System 0.o) so i tried port 8080 and this one isnt blocked, but it doesnt help
03:40:28 [main] Initializing Control Panel
03:40:28 [main] Windows Version: Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
03:40:28 [main] XAMPP Version: ???
03:40:28 [main] Control Panel Version: 3.1.0 3.1.0 [ Compiled: September 20th 2012 ]
03:40:28 [main] Running with Administrator rights - good!
03:40:28 [main] XAMPP Installation Directory: "c:wowmoddingtrinityserverxampp"
03:40:28 [main] Checking for prerequisites
03:40:28 [main] All prerequisites found
03:40:28 [main] Initializing Modules
03:40:28 [main] The FileZilla module is disabled
03:40:28 [main] The Mercury module is disabled
03:40:28 [main] The Tomcat module is disabled
03:40:28 [main] Starting Check-Timer
03:40:28 [main] Control Panel Ready
03:40:43 [Apache] Attempting to start Apache app...
03:40:43 [Apache] Status change detected: running
03:40:44 [Apache] Status change detected: stopped
03:40:44 [Apache] Error: Apache shutdown unexpectedly.
03:40:44 [Apache] This may be due to a blocked port, missing dependencies,
03:40:44 [Apache] improper privileges, a crash, or a shutdown by another method.
03:40:44 [Apache] Check the "/xampp/apache/logs/error.log" file
03:40:44 [Apache] and the Windows Event Viewer for more clues
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You have to run
1. The MySQL start bat
2. The auth server exe
3. The worldserver exe
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i did but it didnt work.... explained it before but looks like there was a misunderstanding
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Okay.
Try to get a new mysql or look if it even connects to the core.
I've had the problem before.
Get a new package i should say.
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Good tutorials for beginners, but would like to see something of the professional series, such as creating a dungeon or raid.
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As noone did this till today (also start and never finish meens not did it :) )
But we will see what the future brings. There are some parts stillmissing because i have to muchto do with the project.
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The tutorials is nice thx for the writ and translision
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Hi, i was starting to follow along but i can't seem to find this "modding tools pack" i keep reading in various places. I have checked all over the forums in multiple tutorial area's but i cant find it?
We will have to edit DBCs during many tasks of modding. Perhaps just have a look at them to get a feeling and an overview what they are.
>> Open the MyDBCEditor from
F:WoWModdingToolsMyDbcEditorMyDbcEditor.exe
Where should i be getting this starter pack of mod tools from to follow the tutorials?
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Part 2 is all about the pack.
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Part 2 is all about the pack.
Ah, my mistake i only read tutorial [00] and [01] but was afraid to continue any further because i didn't have any of the tools. Sorry about that, and thanks!
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No Problem. I will rewrite the part in 01 that point to not instaled tools.
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Feedback:
When opening noggit, I had a missing MSVCP110.dll. I downloaded the visual studio runtime that was linked on the manual (wiki/index.php5?title=Noggit_user_manual (http://modcraft.io/wiki/index.php5?title=Noggit_user_manual" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)) but it wouldn't install because I already had a newer version.
From what I know, it is better to install the whole visual studio than to just replace the single dll so I didn't do that. The internet says that this dll is in fact in the 2012 visual studio, not 2010 (though it says 2010 on the guide*).
So I downloaded visualC++2012. But I already had it. Then I realized that I needed the x84 32bit version. After I downloaded that, everything worked perfectly.
Suggestions:
1. Let it be known on the manual that the latest visualC++ is needed, and that it must be the x86 (32-bit) version. If a link is provided, maybe warn that it may not be the latest version anymore.
2. This is a minor one. On the noggit.conf, it reads
#Edit this to your WoWFile!!!
Path = E:WoW 3.3.5
I was a bit unsure at first whether I was supposed to edit it to my WoWFile (E:WoW 3.3.5WoW.exe) or the WoW folder path (E:WoW 3.3.5) because the comment says the file but the path example is the folder. I did the folder and it worked fine, but I would recommend changing it to
#Edit this to your WoW Folder Path!! With also at the end, and NEVER /
Path = E:WoW 3.3.5
These suggestions might decrease the number of new players asking for help & make more people join the community cause the setup is easier.
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Read me and noggit not matching is due to different people doing it and doing it for different versions.
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Suggestions:
1. Let it be known on the manual that the latest visualC++ is needed, and that it must be the x86 (32-bit) version. If a link is provided, maybe warn that it may not be the latest version anymore.
I will update the pack and include the DLL. Thanks for this
[paragraph:23lvdefn]2. This is a minor one. On the noggit.conf, it reads
#Edit this to your WoWFile!!!
Path = E:WoW 3.3.5
I was a bit unsure at first whether I was supposed to edit it to my WoWFile (E:WoW 3.3.5WoW.exe) or the WoW folder path (E:WoW 3.3.5) because the comment says the file but the path example is the folder. I did the folder and it worked fine, but I would recommend changing it to[/paragraph:23lvdefn]
If you follow the tutorial right, you have no need to edit the config file. Because in part 2 we setup the modding environment and copy wow 2 times over to predefined folders inside WoWModding FOlder called Client335aNoggit and Client 335aTest.
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There should be separate sections for different tutorials. It seems as if almost all of the ones here focus on Noggit even though the sub forum title makes it seems as if more would be taught.
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There should be separate sections for different tutorials. It seems as if almost all of the ones here focus on Noggit even though the sub forum title makes it seems as if more would be taught.
Good call and good observation. In fact we are looking forward to organizing all the tutorials neatly :)
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It would be cole if you guys give me some feedback here in this thread about the tutorial and also if you use them the translations. Do they help you, can you good and easy follow, do you understand all the points?
I want to make this as good as possible so I need you informations![/quoteI come from China, many people in China do not speak English will not be programming, but there are too many people like wow.I am concerned about forum a few days, learning to read difficult, I think the forum can automatically translate Chinese, if I use Google is very slow and need to over the wall.Also according to my understanding, if you want to modify the MPQ, the involved tools are too much, can follow the Warcraft 3The frozen throne map editor,All the functions of fusion look, use a tool to complete all the work.I see the support 3.3.5 client, can support 1.12.1, because1.12.1 urine capacity to modify!
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I dont htink that auto translation is possible and a ways, What do the others think?
Yes we all want one nice working tool. But htis needs ocders with time and motivation :)
We went towards wod in the moment and not backwards to 1.12.x :)
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links in that topic not working anymore http://www.modcraft.io/index.php?topic=3209.0
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Oh thanks. I will have a look and fix it.