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Title: [QUESTION] How to change 3.5.5 nelf into CATA Worgen
Post by: Afrowalrus03 on September 06, 2015, 03:06:34 pm
Hi there, I've been trying for a small while now to change the night elf race from 3.5.5 (both male and female) to the Cataclysm Worgen race. This is my first attempt at any sort of model editing myself, so a lot of it so far has been trial and error, however I reached a bit of a stump. The textures from the worgen are on (most) of the night elf models, so I know they are (in a sense) working. However, I have no idea how to make so that the worgen models themselves are actually used by the game.

Here's a picture to better describe what I've done so far.

http://i.imgur.com/l6OHVPs.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/l6OHVPs.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

So, any clues to what I should do from here? The help would much appreciated, and I'd upload the patch file for download afterwards.
Title: Re: [QUESTION] How to change 3.5.5 nelf into CATA Worgen
Post by: Afrowalrus03 on September 07, 2015, 02:08:23 am
I've worked on it, and have now wroked out how to get the model into the game. The only problem I have now, is this weird issue with the facial hair from the night elves. I tried changing some texture files around as I did before, but now when ever I have anything to do with Worgen clicked in the login screen then my game freezes. I'll keep trying a workaround, however, posting this up here, just in case anybody knows how to solve it, and wants to lend a hand.


http://i.imgur.com/iFxIqQn.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/iFxIqQn.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

(Ignore the High Elf face on the alliance side, that's from another patch that I downloaded).
Title: Re: [QUESTION] How to change 3.5.5 nelf into CATA Worgen
Post by: Alastor on September 07, 2015, 07:53:05 am
Play with Charsection.dbc
there are stored all of those textures loaded by CHARACTERs
Title: Re: [QUESTION] How to change 3.5.5 nelf into CATA Worgen
Post by: Skarn on September 07, 2015, 07:38:55 pm
Quote from: "Afrowalrus03"
I've worked on it, and have now wroked out how to get the model into the game. The only problem I have now, is this weird issue with the facial hair from the night elves. I tried changing some texture files around as I did before, but now when ever I have anything to do with Worgen clicked in the login screen then my game freezes. I'll keep trying a workaround, however, posting this up here, just in case anybody knows how to solve it, and wants to lend a hand.


http://i.imgur.com/iFxIqQn.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/iFxIqQn.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

(Ignore the High Elf face on the alliance side, that's from another patch that I downloaded).

Looks like a gay worgen.
Title: Re: [QUESTION] How to change 3.5.5 nelf into CATA Worgen
Post by: Afrowalrus03 on September 07, 2015, 08:39:35 pm
Did as you said, and there's no more odd colouring on the worgen's face. Only issues that I don't know how to solve for them currently, is a lack of any kind of texture on the neck.

http://i.imgur.com/vAI1OBh.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/vAI1OBh.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) (Male)
http://i.imgur.com/08WjIFf.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/08WjIFf.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) (Female)

 I compared the worgen texture paths, and the night elf ones together. However, when I tried to "reroute" the paths to the corresponding model, the game crashed upon launch.

I can live without this, though if I were to release the patch file I'd prefer if that were fixed.

I have another gribe I've been trying to solve, and that is the sound files. I've imported a number of the worgen's voice files, and renamed them in the style of "NightElfMale_Chicken01", for example. But, when I try it out in game, there's nothing but silence. So, again, suggestions?

Thank you for the help so far, greatly appreciate it. :)
Title: Re: [QUESTION] How to change 3.5.5 nelf into CATA Worgen
Post by: Afrowalrus03 on September 07, 2015, 09:08:35 pm
Also, would anyone know how I would approach fixing helmets for the worgen?

Everything else seems to work fine, however helmets just float in the middle of their face.

Example (Some Worgen Rogue wearing the Defias Mask)

http://i.imgur.com/ybtoC7f.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/ybtoC7f.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
Title: Re: [QUESTION] How to change 3.5.5 nelf into CATA Worgen
Post by: Vatoto on September 08, 2015, 07:10:24 am
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Also, would anyone know how I would approach fixing helmets for the worgen?

Did you convert the m2 worgen helmets? Every race has a specify helmet m2. Maybe this is a solution =/
Title: Re: [QUESTION] How to change 3.5.5 nelf into CATA Worgen
Post by: TheMetalCarrots on September 08, 2015, 08:51:34 am
Quote from: "Vatoto"
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Also, would anyone know how I would approach fixing helmets for the worgen?

Did you convert the m2 worgen helmets? Every race has a specify helmet m2. Maybe this is a solution =/

This would work - extract all helmets that have the 'wom'/'wof' and the end of their name, batch convert them and then use a batch renamer to turn 'wom'/'wof' into 'nim' and 'nif'
Title: Re: [QUESTION] How to change 3.5.5 nelf into CATA Worgen
Post by: mememan on September 10, 2015, 10:15:11 pm
Hey, can you share the model/textures you are using for worgen? Ive been looking for those for a while now
Title: Re: [QUESTION] How to change 3.5.5 nelf into CATA Worgen
Post by: Afrowalrus03 on September 12, 2015, 11:44:50 pm
Okay, after much trial and error, I have (for the most part it seems) gotten the helmet files converted. It seems to work for most of the time, though after a quick search through the auction house dressing room, the northrend helmets are invisible. Everything else works, as can be seen:

Here
http://i.imgur.com/vsyTZg1.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/vsyTZg1.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

And (sort of) here - Bit odd on the female worgen. Not sure if that's for every female worgen atm
http://i.imgur.com/1F3sByl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/1F3sByl.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)


Any solutions?

I'll release them when I'm done.
Title: Re: [QUESTION] How to change 3.5.5 nelf into CATA Worgen
Post by: Afrowalrus03 on September 13, 2015, 12:40:53 am
Welp, just checked the auction house with a female worgen, and it seems that they might be using the male helmet files by accident. Though, it might be because they are the alpha/beta worgen rather than the "chihuahua" model in retail.

http://i.imgur.com/xBEx8hS.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/xBEx8hS.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
Title: Re: [QUESTION] How to change 3.5.5 nelf into CATA Worgen
Post by: TheMetalCarrots on September 13, 2015, 03:01:59 pm
Quote from: "Afrowalrus03"
Welp, just checked the auction house with a female worgen, and it seems that they might be using the male helmet files by accident. Though, it might be because they are the alpha/beta worgen rather than the "chihuahua" model in retail.

http://i.imgur.com/xBEx8hS.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/xBEx8hS.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

I think you might be using the Male head items for the Female, because (from what I can see) they're too large for both retail and alpha female worgen's faces. Go into WoWModelViewer and see if there's any difference between the two gender's helmets, just to be sure.
Title: Re: [QUESTION] How to change 3.5.5 nelf into CATA Worgen
Post by: guymandudebro on September 14, 2015, 06:46:04 am
Quote from: "Afrowalrus03"
Okay, after much trial and error, I have (for the most part it seems) gotten the helmet files converted. It seems to work for most of the time, though after a quick search through the auction house dressing room, the northrend helmets are invisible. Everything else works, as can be seen:

Here
http://i.imgur.com/vsyTZg1.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/vsyTZg1.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

And (sort of) here - Bit odd on the female worgen. Not sure if that's for every female worgen atm
http://i.imgur.com/1F3sByl.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/1F3sByl.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)


Any solutions?

I'll release them when I'm done.

hey just a heads up, I remember back in cata trying to swap the worgen models for the alpha models and female worgen helmets never worked. Im 90% sure helmets never worked on the old female worgen models, like blizzard never finished them before switching to the new/current head model.
Title: Re: [QUESTION] How to change 3.5.5 nelf into CATA Worgen
Post by: guymandudebro on September 20, 2015, 11:25:47 am
Any progress so far? Ive always wanted to play a worgen in wotlk
Title: Re: [QUESTION] How to change 3.5.5 nelf into CATA Worgen
Post by: Afrowalrus03 on September 20, 2015, 11:54:16 pm
Not much recently, been highly busy with life stuff. Been trying to figure out how to fix the helmet issues, or at least finding some compromise for them. Thought of using female tauren helmets for the female worgen, but it seems that won't work. Hope to work in more depth, when I''m more free. (I've also been trying to replicate a nightsaber reskin patch I saw online from years ago, going very well. Will release that alongside this when done).
Title: Re: [QUESTION] How to change 3.5.5 nelf into CATA Worgen
Post by: guymandudebro on September 21, 2015, 03:14:58 am
Quote from: "Afrowalrus03"
Not much recently, been highly busy with life stuff. Been trying to figure out how to fix the helmet issues, or at least finding some compromise for them. Thought of using female tauren helmets for the female worgen, but it seems that won't work. Hope to work in more depth, when I''m more free. (I've also been trying to replicate a nightsaber reskin patch I saw online from years ago, going very well. Will release that alongside this when done).

Alright, thanks. Really appriciate all the work youre putting in to this.

If you want you can send me the files and Ill take a look
Title: Re: [QUESTION] How to change 3.5.5 nelf into CATA Worgen
Post by: Afrowalrus03 on December 02, 2015, 07:33:44 pm
Okau, long period of absence, been a very busy time of my life for me. Anyway, looking to finish this up before christmas. Haven't found a solution for:
-The female helm issue
-The white neck (though someone has kindly pm'd me about a possible solution)
-Some male worgen faces that are all still thinking that they have the night elf textures
-Sounds are still Night Elf sounds (despite placing worgen sound files into an mpq)

Despite this, after just starting up again today, I've changed the ghost wisp form to a rough ghost wolf, the nightsaber textures have been given a tryout, and I've gotten the worgen bear form into the game, and working well (hair colours don't align perfectly, but that's what the barbershop is for) :P

Here's an image of a character I've playtested with:

http://i.imgur.com/7edF635.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/7edF635.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)

Will upload more as I progress more (you'll have to excuse my on/off laziness)