Shoutbox

[zax]

@stoneharry
Probably can't do. After some huge server load (most likely shoutbox related) my webserver was shut down for some time and i was informed by the provider that I don't have the permission to run scripts just like the shoutbox.
So I presented some alternative solutions and you may add your 2 cents if you like. At the end it is up to the other staff what will be done.

[Will]

I don't have the permission to run scripts just like the shoutbox

Change provider? That is rediculas..

[zax]

@Will:
That might be an option - just not for me as I'm hosting this site out of generosity on my personal web domain.
If there is anyone who has time, money and experience to do the job he may want to talk to the staff guys,, schlumpf and Steff and so on. It's mainly their project atm.

[schlumpf]

Thought about it, but I won't.

[fearless_wind]

Is it possible to use frames here? (I mean the frame which shows a part of another site, so we can make a free chat on any free host and make a frame)

[Steff]

Just join our irc chat?

IRC

If you want to talk you can also join our IRC channels on quakenet.org. For general talk, join the channel #Modcraft, for talk on Noggit, join #Noggit.

For questions on IRC / Quakenet, see their FAQ.

[schlumpf]

Anything that is not self hosted does not have a proper history and linking to accounts. I dislike using some external service, where someone random may just join with my name, being embedded into this site, suggesting actually being me.

[Gamh]

Quakenet actually has an account system and plenty chan/account flags to protect you from being impersonated.

The only "problem" is indeed that you can't access logs unless you're logged in 24/7. Still it's doable by using a distant server as IRC client and connecting to it via ssh - that's what i do (well, not now because irl) and it's great, but a bit overkill to only have logs

[schlumpf]

Quakenet actually has an account system and plenty chan/account flags to protect you from being impersonated.

The only "problem" is indeed that you can't access logs unless you're logged in 24/7. Still it's doable by using a distant server as IRC client and connecting to it via ssh - that's what i do (well, not now because irl) and it's great, but a bit overkill to only have logs

The point is not in me wanting logs, but in a website's shoutbox being useless if there is no log on the site itself. Most IRC web clients are also a horrible experience or even java based. Additionally, IRC is overkill and not suited to be a website shoutbox, as one has the whole overhead of channels, other users, is relying on others.

And on user names: schlumpf is taken. Anything else is _not_ the same as on the site, thus does not have any use. Also, phpBB allows names that IRC does not allow.

Any system, that is not under full control of us is not useful and won't get my vote.

[Gamh]

Ah, misunderstood that you were searching for something to embed to the site and not a separated system. Can't help there.

Most IRC web clients are also a horrible experience or even java based.

true

[fearless_wind]

Anything that is not self hosted does not have a proper history and linking to accounts. I dislike using some external service, where someone random may just join with my name, being embedded into this site, suggesting actually being me.

I can host a chat on my site, and there are will be an account system.

[schlumpf]

Anything that is not self hosted does not have a proper history and linking to accounts. I dislike using some external service, where someone random may just join with my name, being embedded into this site, suggesting actually being me.

I can host a chat on my site, and there are will be an account system.

Is it linked to our accounts?

[fearless_wind]

No, but we can register accounts of the most active users and admins manually to save their nicknames.

[schlumpf]

That's not a good solution.

[fearless_wind]

But better than nothing