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Community => General => Topic started by: Eluo on March 19, 2013, 11:43:06 pm
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Hi!
Maybe you noticed that the shoutbox is gone. We're currently trying to bringing it back.
Greetings
Eluo
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Any progress on this? Missing the shoutbox.
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Most likely won't come back.
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*annoying lil´ kid mode on* What was the problem?
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low activity on forum, maybe?
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More to height ;)
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*annoying lil´ kid mode on* What was the problem?
That is always the case with open-shoutboxes.
There are negatives as you have highlighted, but there are also positives.
I personally just liked being able to post, and watch others post, little things they have accomplished that they don't want to go and actually post about. Also the linking to other innovative implementations.
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*annoying lil´ kid mode on* What was the problem?
That is always the case with open-shoutboxes.
There are negatives as you have highlighted, but there are also positives.
I personally just liked being able to post, and watch others post, little things they have accomplished that they don't want to go and actually post about. Also the linking to other innovative implementations.
There are some people that are lazy to make a new thread, and the shoutbox was the greatest opportunity. (Oh, I can't be the only one doing that).
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*annoying lil´ kid mode on* What was the problem?
That is always the case with open-shoutboxes.
There are negatives as you have highlighted, but there are also positives.
I personally just liked being able to post, and watch others post, little things they have accomplished that they don't want to go and actually post about. Also the linking to other innovative implementations.
There are some people that are lazy to make a new thread, and the shoutbox was the greatest opportunity. (Oh, I can't be the only one doing that).
Are you saying that because some people are lazy, we all should suffer?
I am with stoneharry on this. Many accomplishments are not worth the time to make a thread about, but they are accomplishments to be shared none the less.
Also, sometimes it's good to throw a small idea out there and get some quick feedback. I checked the shoutbox a lot more frequently than anything else, because it didn't take up much time to check while I was busy. Then when I get the chance I would check the threads.
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Could you please tell me which shoutbox plugin you used? I´d like to try out several things that will maybe make it possible to easily implement it in the future without those problems ;)
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In the end, I modified nearly everything, so I don't think that the original plugin would have any use. ;)
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@Shruik
If i remember correctly, it was Ajax ShoutBox or Ajax Chat or something.
@XxXGenesisXxX
Due to technical problems concerning this webserver, the shoutbox had to be removed. There may or may not be an alternative solution in future, depending on wether the former issue can or cannot be avoided.
As for now you guys may use the IRC-Channel provided by the staff.
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Due to technical problems concerning this webserver, the shoutbox had to be removed. There may or may not be an alternative solution in future, depending on wether the former issue can or cannot be avoided.
As for now you guys may use the IRC-Channel provided by the staff.
And that IRC channel is?
And what was the technical issue? Maybe one of us with some free time can work on a solution, for it surely is not impossible to resolve.
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Due to technical problems concerning this webserver, the shoutbox had to be removed. There may or may not be an alternative solution in future, depending on wether the former issue can or cannot be avoided.
As for now you guys may use the IRC-Channel provided by the staff.
And that IRC channel is?
And what was the technical issue? Maybe one of us with some free time can work on a solution, for it surely is not impossible to resolve.
viewtopic.php?f=0&t=712&p=4528&hilit=irc#p4528 (http://modcraft.io/viewtopic.php?f=0&t=712&p=4528&hilit=irc#p4528" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) ;)
#Modcraft or #Noggit
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Pro tip.. Read the Global main post ;)
Read first! / Welcome to WoW modding! / Tutorials
viewtopic.php?f=29&t=712 (http://modcraft.io/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=712" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
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@stoneharry
Probably can't do. After some huge server load (most likely shoutbox related) my webserver was shut down for some time and i was informed by the provider that I don't have the permission to run scripts just like the shoutbox.
So I presented some alternative solutions and you may add your 2 cents if you like. At the end it is up to the other staff what will be done.
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I don't have the permission to run scripts just like the shoutbox
Change provider? That is rediculas..
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@Will:
That might be an option - just not for me as I'm hosting this site out of generosity on my personal web domain.
If there is anyone who has time, money and experience to do the job he may want to talk to the staff guys,, schlumpf and Steff and so on. It's mainly their project atm.
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Thought about it, but I won't.
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Is it possible to use frames here? (I mean the frame which shows a part of another site, so we can make a free chat on any free host and make a frame)
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Just join our irc chat?
IRC
If you want to talk you can also join our IRC channels on quakenet.org. For general talk, join the channel #Modcraft, for talk on Noggit, join #Noggit.
For questions on IRC / Quakenet, see their FAQ.
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Anything that is not self hosted does not have a proper history and linking to accounts. I dislike using some external service, where someone random may just join with my name, being embedded into this site, suggesting actually being me.
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Quakenet actually has an account system and plenty chan/account flags to protect you from being impersonated.
The only "problem" is indeed that you can't access logs unless you're logged in 24/7. Still it's doable by using a distant server as IRC client and connecting to it via ssh - that's what i do (well, not now because irl) and it's great, but a bit overkill to only have logs ;)
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Quakenet actually has an account system and plenty chan/account flags to protect you from being impersonated.
The only "problem" is indeed that you can't access logs unless you're logged in 24/7. Still it's doable by using a distant server as IRC client and connecting to it via ssh - that's what i do (well, not now because irl) and it's great, but a bit overkill to only have logs ;)
The point is not in me wanting logs, but in a website's shoutbox being useless if there is no log on the site itself. Most IRC web clients are also a horrible experience or even java based. Additionally, IRC is overkill and not suited to be a website shoutbox, as one has the whole overhead of channels, other users, is relying on others.
And on user names: schlumpf is taken. Anything else is _not_ the same as on the site, thus does not have any use. Also, phpBB allows names that IRC does not allow.
Any system, that is not under full control of us is not useful and won't get my vote.
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Ah, misunderstood that you were searching for something to embed to the site and not a separated system. Can't help there.
Most IRC web clients are also a horrible experience or even java based.
:D true
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Anything that is not self hosted does not have a proper history and linking to accounts. I dislike using some external service, where someone random may just join with my name, being embedded into this site, suggesting actually being me.
I can host a chat on my site, and there are will be an account system.
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Anything that is not self hosted does not have a proper history and linking to accounts. I dislike using some external service, where someone random may just join with my name, being embedded into this site, suggesting actually being me.
I can host a chat on my site, and there are will be an account system.
Is it linked to our accounts?
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No, but we can register accounts of the most active users and admins manually to save their nicknames.
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That's not a good solution. ;)
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But better than nothing ;)
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If I'd like "better than nothing", we would have a solution since quite some time. ;)
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I really miss the Shoutbox :/
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If changing providers is a monetary issue, open up the site for donations.
I for one will donate probably 40 dollars if it means the community can have a shoutbox.
I am sure others will be willing to pitch in for a shoutbox.
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If changing providers is a monetary issue, open up the site for donations.
I for one will donate probably 40 dollars if it means the community can have a shoutbox.
I am sure others will be willing to pitch in for a shoutbox.
This is a good idea.
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I feel as if a shoutbox is a necessity for a community such as this.
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IRC
If you want to talk you can also join our IRC channels on quakenet.org. For general talk, join the channel #Modcraft,
And if you dont have IRC client
http://webchat.quakenet.org/ (http://webchat.quakenet.org/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
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Where is the shoutbox :lol:
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Where is the shoutbox :lol:
Won't come back.
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If you guys don't change the hosting :D
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Hi everyone :)
I'm more or less retired, but I'm still on the IRC channel #modcraft almost all the time.
I'm posting now because I see some people trying to use the chan like the shoutbox, whereas both don't socially work the same way.
On the shoutbox, you would post something like "hey I have this problem can you help me ?", close your forum tab, come back later and read the answer.
On IRC, you will probably end frustrated doing this. Some people connect for a minute, they ask "can you help me ?", "hey I have this problem what do I do ?", "anyone here ?", or even /msg someone, and then disconnect a few minutes after.
How can we have a chance to answer if you're disconnected ? Most of the time people in the chan are not even in front of their keyboard, so of course no one answers quickly (we're not a support hotline xD).
IRC is more about chatting, being idle and say something from time to time. The whole point lies in the time you're being connected. The longer you stay, the longer you try to get along with people in there, the more you'll get answers and participate to the community.
The chan is also what you'll make of it. The more people connected, the more lively :)
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On technical aspects, you can use the direct link to the webchat on the forum main page to join, or get a client on your computer or even phone/tablet ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison ... at_clients (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Internet_Relay_Chat_clients" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) ).
If you want to be "authed" (= identified) on Quakenet, you can follow this :
https://www.quakenet.org/help/q-commands/auth (https://www.quakenet.org/help/q-commands/auth" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
And to hide your IP if that's important for you :
https://www.quakenet.org/news/231-security-on-quakenet (https://www.quakenet.org/news/231-security-on-quakenet" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
See you online soon !
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Thanks for post.
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Hi Steff,
Is it possible for you to connect on #modcraft channel, and change some permissions ?
- schlumpf is not perm +ao and it really should be.
- since you're not on irc 99% of the time, is it possible to grant him or me or both the rights to use CHANLEV ? ( https://www.quakenet.org/help/q-commands/chanlev (https://www.quakenet.org/help/q-commands/chanlev" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;) )
Thank you very much ! :)
Mjollna
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I was online for 4 weeks and nothing happend. So ill uninstalled client :)
I even have to look if i have admin there.
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http://web.archive.org/web/201107300748 ... ranoid.de/ (http://web.archive.org/web/20110730074805/http://modcraft.io/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
Old modcraft was way better with the shoutbox and resource section.
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Resources still exist?
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Yeah, but the old system looked the way more useful. But the main thing we lack is a shoutbox, I think. It kept active people online on modcraft, so everyone was getting help and the forum was more active.
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Yeah, but the old system looked the way more useful. But the main thing we lack is a shoutbox, I think. It kept active people online on modcraft, so everyone was getting help and the forum was more active.
couldn't agree more.
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https://webchat.quakenet.org/?nick=Stef ... =#Modcraft (https://webchat.quakenet.org/?nick=Steff&channels=#Modcraft" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
We are not allowed ro use such scripts on this root. Also there is a irc chat linked. Just use it.