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XxXGenesisXxX:
When I said a question to be answered at registration, I meant something very simple, yet completely specific to this forum. Pretty much being something that has the accepted answers as WoW and World of Warcraft. But making the question general enough, that is isn't something to be "figured out" by a bot.

I like the idea of no links in the first post, but perhaps make it first 5 posts. As I don't see why someone that has made a measly 5 posts needs to be able to post links without permission like in the tutorial forum. It's not a big ask.

However I also somewhat agree with the whole post before having access idea, to a point though. However I think that is more of a leecher prevention than a bot prevention. As you are essentially setting up a forum for those bots to post in. Instead of random spam across the board, you are going to have flooded spam in the welcome/introduction forum.

Also, regarding both ideas, think if you had automated account deletion, a very clear statement at registration is needed to let potential human registrations know the potential actions taken if they do commit an act such as posting a link.

schlumpf:

--- Quote from: "XxXGenesisXxX" ---Also, regarding both ideas, think if you had automated account deletion, a very clear statement at registration is needed to let potential human registrations know the potential actions taken if they do commit an act such as posting a link.
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I would never implement automatic deletion for something as simple as posts, but only for ensured only-by-bot actions, like editing a non-existent profile field.

Eluo:

--- Quote ---question as captchas are somewhat more safe, tend to be easily answered though, as well. Thus, there are -- surprise! -- services to solve them.
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I actually have no clue at all how the captcha stuff works but:
How about making a list of diffent questions and only activate one question for a specific time. The questions would be made by the staff and would be active for lets say 4 days. If then the usercounter spikes again, then the question propably got solved by one of those services.
As soon as we notice an increase of spambots we can simply switch out the question/answer.
Doing this like every four days is way less work than keeping an eye on that many spambots.

XxXGenesisXxX:

--- Quote from: "Eluo" ---
--- Quote ---question as captchas are somewhat more safe, tend to be easily answered though, as well. Thus, there are -- surprise! -- services to solve them.
--- End quote ---
How about making a list of diffent questions and only activate one question for a specific time. The questons would be made by the staff and would be active for lets say 4 days. If then the usercounter spikes again, then the question propably got solved by one of those services.
As soon as we notice an increase of spambots we can simply switch out the question.
--- End quote ---

Sounds like a good idea, if it works. I don't know much about the bots, so I can't say much other than this idea may underestimate the bots. If the bots figure it out quickly and questions change quickly, you will find yourself either cycling through questions or running out of simple ones that don't confuse potential registrations. Both results not working in Modcrafts favor.

On the other hand, if it works, it does sound fairly manageable given the questions were of the correct nature (easy for humans, hard for bots).

Ascathos:
The question list is limited to human imagination again. I'd be pretty sure that at some point, you have repetitive questions.  Which easily get figured out.

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