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XxXGenesisXxX:
I know this has been talked about many times in the shoutbox, but I think a documentation style thread that many of the intelligent minds here could read over and throw their ideas or 2 cents in on how to help prevent it. Because having 50 conversations with 50 people in shoutbox leads to repeated solutions and denials.

This is the current online users:

Registered users: 1y2r0m2s4j, 5o0c9t3g7p, Annwc01k, canabalt, Codebreaker, dghhdfgfrty, fdv9fhg8d, mhaastvhr, nhjftyndg, noc, Pid9z2noc14, smelovsky.com, XxXGenesisXxX, yugf5h5hb1

The staff have done a great job at minimizing the spam, but eliminating it would be best.

Personally an option I think would work would be to add a generalized question regarding WoW modding to the registration page. Obviously a lot of bots can simply google answers like 2 + 2. But a generic question relating specifically to this forums like "What game is forum dedicated to?", would be easily answered without a bot being able to automatically guess it. Only way for it to guess it would be from manual implementation targeting this forum.

Steff:
The problem is that the most bots are chinees once. Huamns. I had such a sytem for 2 days. Did not work.
In the moment I think a system where the user have to post a wellcome thread and hav onylö access to the welcome board and manual activation is the only working way.

What do you think?

schlumpf:
Captchas of any type are bad:

* Actual users have a bad UX if they are unsure, mistype, are bothered at all.
* The user might not even know the answer, depending on the question and required knowledge (people suggested questions about ADTs etc, which clearly is over the top).
* classic image to text captchas are _all_ solved by machines or dedicated services, where spammers just buy 10000 solved captchas and don't give a damn.
* question as captchas are somewhat more safe, tend to be easily answered though, as well. Thus, there are -- surprise! -- services to solve them.
Secondary detection is way more successful: Bad words, URLs, mails; just deleting them automatically based on what they do. For example, there is a filter, deleting everyone setting their occupation in the profile. The spam filter for posts has a massive list of banned words as well.

Manual activation is horrible.

Steff:
If the amount off real people getting to the board then its not so bad.
Also people dotn have to get nerved because no link posting work.

Or the other way that only users that post in teh houre after registeration an hello post stay. All other get deleted.
The few getting this also handled get deleted manual.

schlumpf:

--- Quote from: "Steff" ---If the amount off real people getting to the board then its not so bad.
--- End quote ---
You still have to evaluate every single account manually, or you will start deleting real people's accounts.


--- Quote from: "Steff" ---Also people dotn have to get nerved because no link posting work.
--- End quote ---
There is not really a reason to post a link in your first posts.


--- Quote from: "Steff" ---Or the other way that only users that post in teh houre after registeration an hello post stay. All other get deleted.
The few getting this also handled get deleted manual.
--- End quote ---
You want to force people to write a post or they are deleted? Ever heard of people just reading stuff, but still using an account?

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