Why so little content for >4.x.x?

[iindigo]

Not that it makes any difference, but I'd be spending a lot of my spare time making user-friendly tools if I could find a clear path to follow with regards to learning how to parse and write binary files programmatically. I make a living doing software development in a C-like language, so it's not a problem of being unable to program. The only problem is lack of knowledge in one particular type of programming.

[PhilipTNG]

Not that it makes any difference, but I'd be spending a lot of my spare time making user-friendly tools if I could find a clear path to follow with regards to learning how to parse and write binary files programmatically. I make a living doing software development in a C-like language, so it's not a problem of being unable to program.

Who's that reply to? There's only been 2 posts since your last reply and none of them talk about that.

The only problem is lack of knowledge in one particular type of programming.

I wouldn't say that's the only problem in terms of regards to all the people interested in Modding Cataclysm, another is those that are actually interested in the topic either don't have the free time to spare spending time on the idea or ............

Those who won't make the effort to put in the time to making their dreams a reality, which usually follows with them complaining that others(such as yourself, sclumpf, mjollna, stoneharry, and all other legends) won't make better or newer tools.  Then they start to wine about how people that know how to do it won't make stuff, but that's not a logical argument at all since what benefit is it to them if they did do it anyway? If They(the smart people) have no interest in it then that's perfectly fine, leechers trying to make it a reason and to be negative about their standing on the topic doesn't help anyone.

[iindigo]

Who's that reply to? There's only been 2 posts since your last reply and none of them talk about that.

It wasn't a response to anybody in particular, but to the general sentiment of there being no tools and nobody to work on the tools.

Those who won't make the effort to put in the time to making their dreams a reality, which usually follows with them complaining that others(such as yourself, sclumpf, mjollna, stoneharry, and all other legends) won't make better or newer tools.  Then they start to wine about how people that know how to do it won't make stuff, but that's not a logical argument at all since what benefit is it to them if they did do it anyway? If They(the smart people) have no interest in it then that's perfectly fine, leechers trying to make it a reason and to be negative about their standing on the topic doesn't help anyone.

I see what you're saying and agree to some extent, but I still see lack of [quality] tools as a problem if only because those who are dedicated enough to mod without tools could do so much more with their time, energy, and creativity if they weren't bogged down by process, quirks, glitches, gotchas, etc. If making tools available lowers the barrier to entry, that's a side effect and won't make that much difference for those who lack the patience to learn. Modding will still take a lot of work, it'll just be less tedious.

[Chase]

Roleplay Heaven welcomes MoP and WoD modders. Some people from modcraft are already on Roleplay Heaven, and we welcome the rest of you. We even have a 12mb WoD client that works with custom patches if anyone wants to convert and get started modding for WoD.

For me, I already made a custom skins patch, like Rangorns, and we have a custom object patch also.

Modcraft will have to realize eventually that the expansion they are modding on is 7 years old. I find it funny you guys are retro porting so much, why don't you just play the version those assets are on? Yes, its challenging, but that's the whole point in modding, feeling accomplished when you achieve what you believed was impossible.

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that's the whole point in modding, feeling accomplished when you achieve what you believed was impossible

Exactly

[PhilipTNG]

I find it funny you guys are retro porting so much, why don't you just play the version those assets are on?.

It really depends on the end user's reasons, if they are using LK because of the reasons listed above because they complain that there aren't any tools available to do what they want to do. then yeah that's pretty hilarious.

But if said end user is merely using it as a visual sandbox to view custom content and don't actually "play" anything, that statement is void of any reasoning on those individuals.  I know many that merely use LK or Cataclysm as a way to please their visual desires and are fine with that.

As for myself, I don't play anything anymore, I merely use the game, whether it'd be BC, LK, Cata, MoP, WoD, I just use them merely as a visual sandbox.

but that's the whole point in modding, feeling accomplished when you achieve what you believed was impossible.

This is true, but the same goes for any expansion, some people still do things for LK/TBC/Vanilla simply because it's either things that weren't explored before in those expansions or simply things that others may have said it may not be feasibly possible to achieve.  And others, simply for self experimentation for R&D purposes.

[Vlad]

While we're all sitting here, I'd like to complain about the lack of original ideas in the community.

Harry Potter in wow is not stupid. Please stop emulating wow, and make your own thing!

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Imo wow should stay wow. But thats just imo.

[phantomx]

Imo wow should stay wow. But thats just imo.

WoW can stay wow all we do is utilize the engine and turn it into something else because that is a big part of modding it's to make it your own experience.

[MR. Farrare]

WoW can stay wow all we do is utilize the engine and turn it into something else because that is a big part of modding it's to make it your own experience.

like skyrim with all the mods is still skyrim  

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I was talking more about lore in responce to "Harry Potter in wow"

[Vlad]

I was talking more about lore in responce to "Harry Potter in wow"

That was just something I heard at one point on this forum, and frankly, I don't think its too far fetched. Just the other month, a wow/starwars crossover was made, and I loved it. As Phantom said, WoW should just be an engine. Nothing too much more.

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WoW should just be an engine. Nothing too much more.

Personally, Im playing wow and having my wow server because I love the wow universe and the lore. But thats just everyone's own opinion.

[phantomx]

WoW should just be an engine. Nothing too much more.

Personally, Im playing wow and having my wow server because I love the wow universe and the lore. But thats just everyone's own opinion.

What we mean is that we're just using wow's engine we're not using wow's lore or universe we may use some assets but we're not trying to make i.e. harry potter match the lore of wow it will just be harry potter's universe in the wow engine that's it.

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Yea, I get it. Just said I woulnt use wow engine for stuff unrelated to wow cause for me it feels like drinking tea using a wine glass. Although I agree Im being kinda stupid here : /