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Vlad:
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--- Quote from: "schlumpf" ---Ugh, please, no, no, no and no. Videos are horrible. I will never understand why everyone thinks that doing anything in video helps at all. It always results in 30 seconds of worthless intro, 30 seconds of worthless outro and hugely blown up content, which most of the time is two paragraphs max.
Please, don't do video tutorials. Ever. For anything but pottery.
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Bahaha, the funny thing is, your pottery example fits well. I could not see myself learning Autodesk Maya from a wall of text if I was to make 3D model of some pottery. However I feel a video tutorial for a visual medium would make a lot more sense. xD
Although, yeah it's not for everything and some things can be explained in a great deal less time with written text.
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Well, look who got resurrected from the dead.
MountainLion:
EDIT: Sorry for the long read but it's worth it :)
Tutorials are essential. Written or Video. Take this from someone that -not even a year ago, roughly- had no clue what he was doing at all and is now scripting... Learning (thanks Steff, Valk, Google <3)
What has been helpful? Lateral thinking (as Genesis said), motivation and of course... Tutorials.
Here's how it's gonna go down, in order:
For starters...
From now on, no one has the ability to demand/complain about something from someone unless you yourself are willing to help, assist or contribute, in some way or another (no, opinions are not enough sadly) and even then it's still not cool. Is this not you? Good, we're on the right track. You see someone doing this though and that should raise some alerts.
Take Steff's Noggit-Introduction-Tutorial. It's good, it's great... It's English is poor due to language barriers perhaps.
Solution? I personally will proof-read it again and again, rewrite it in perfectly good English and ship'er away. (I have translated for Valkryst's -to my knowledge- Bugtracker Tool for reference, feel free to request on that as well) (yup tools* as well if you'd like)
Why? Simple. I used it at some point (as well as will use other ones at some point no doubt), I even still go back to it when I forget a thing or two (yea people still and will use it, e.g. newcomers)... and because I care. I care about being on the Effort-Team.
On that same note, feel free to send me ANY type of written tutorial, guide, walkthrough and I will 'check it' for you. Want me to translate it as well? Of course I can, please, anytime.
Moving on...
How do you keep new people interested? How do you get more people into the scene? Should you care?
Short answer is, no. No you should not care, because THEY should care. Not your job so no worries... Heck I got lucky when I found this home lol
BUT... this does not mean you can't or that you don't 'need' to help. You can if you want to. Although, this is not to be confused with literally solving people's problems for them. Instead, you help them learn or in other words "help them teach themselves". That is how people stay for a longer run. At least the one's that matter or earn it, right? and it should mean -at the very least- that it's something they really want.
It's quite simple really; You point the people in the right direction. They will ask you "how to do this... and that" and you will show them the way straight to school. Because tools equals school, tutorials equals school and everyone has to go to school, if they wish to learn that is. If not then what a sad story but oh well!
Learning, is up to them, not you... But you already did what you could and that's a good job done. Give them 'The Links' (choir:Ahh's)
*Leechers rekt
Moving on again...
Bottom line, content is 3.3.5 and WoD. Period. If you want support for these, you will guaranteed find it. No need for further detail on this one.
Is it a problem that even everyones' grand'ma have done the same type of server and sadly that just keeps dividing the community? Mmm yeah. A solution? :
- noobert poopert asks: "Hey I want to do this and that and it's gonna be so awesome... Gimme gimme candy!"
- cool guy says: "Sure thing bro. Go here, here and here. Goodluck and if you want to practice what you learn and actually start getting good and get some progress, you might want to join this, this or this project which could be a good learning experience for you and at the same time, you'd be helping them out as well. Happy modding bro! :) "
*coolguy walks away with a smile, he takes a glimpse back and can see a now motivated newcomer... get's motivated as well why not
I have offered to become a moderator. I'll try my best to give my time to the new community in return for nothing but lot's of happy modders. That's my endgame.
I too, am busy with lifes' priorities but the effort can be made.
You should join the effort team if you can as well ;)
Lion out
spik96:
--- Quote from: "MountainLion" ---Bottom line, content is 3.3.5 and WoD. Period. If you want support for these, you will guaranteed find it. No need for further detail on this one.
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Yes, yes, there is.
I get most used versions should be 3.3.5 and WoD, perfect. But do you have in mind to forbid every question about other versions ? What's the problem with non "guaranteed" answers ?
XxXGenesisXxX:
--- Quote from: "spik96" ---
--- Quote from: "MountainLion" ---Bottom line, content is 3.3.5 and WoD. Period. If you want support for these, you will guaranteed find it. No need for further detail on this one.
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Yes, yes, there is.
I get most used versions should be 3.3.5 and WoD, perfect. But do you have in mind to forbid every question about other versions ? What's the problem with non "guaranteed" answers ?
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I wouldn't mind them if I knew before I was clicking on the thread. If it was titled "[4.xx] Insert keyword summary here" , then I would know not to click on it as I would most likely have no idea.
Steff:
version tags are a good idea. also stickys. but people sadly don´t use and don´t care about most rules.
So we need to force them ;) What means more active moderation.
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