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schlumpf:
Colored names are especially a bad idea, seeing just Milly and axel0099. Giving someone a color means he is somewhat special. I don't want new people to think that idiots making jokes about the holocaust or getting sent to the gulag being seen as something special.
inico:
Groups were full of leechers and had no real point, glad you removed them. I don't like the new color for everyone. #0099FF looks way better in my opinion.
schlumpf:
Note that the special groups still exist, but are only giving the tags, not a color. I'm personally all in for removing those as well.
Allifeur:
I would like to say that removing name colors is not a very good idea ! To make it clear I'll analyse more precisely the effects they had on the community, then you'll understand why so many people care about them.
First of all, the name color is a symbolical distinction for a lot people, it's like saying "you're part of the community, we recognize your effort". As we are social individuals, we tend to want these medals of merit ! The color becomes a carrot on a stick that insentivies participation in the forum. While I agree it would be better to have people participating for the sole purpose of general progression, you can't realisticaly expect everybody to be that mature. You might fear the arrogance that could come from these colors, and feel they would make newer players more reluctant to join; or even confused about what the color means. But I would tend to think it's the contrary : The color helps them identify and organize people identity. You'll trust more easily someone who is marked as a developer or an advanced artist. If an advanced artist doesn't like a map, you'll know his opinion is more relevant, and is more likely to teach you things. Obviously, the content of a message is far more important, but still, the color gives the little touch that says "This guy knows what he's talking about". And that is not a bad thing, because it DOESN'T make other people reactions worthless either. It'll just help the member to understand there are several kinds of point of view.
Imagine a young guy who wants to create his own maps on Noggit, he'll tend to look more at the orange-colored name topics if he wants a reference. But, then, he'll also look at other people level designs. He'll then make his own opinion about what is better, and analyze what makes their maps better. The color simply makes him more aware of differences, and trust me, these are NOT as obvious as you could think they are. There are people who ask me level design advices because of the name color, prooving that it has a psychological impact that is good for the community.
So I understand your point of view that each indivual should be distinguished by his words and individual replies. But they should also be considered by their previous actions, and that is what the color was useful for.
inico:
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You are totally right, but both groups were full of people who never contributed to the community or are toxic/aggressive. On the other hand there were people who contributed a lot but never were invited to those groups. Colored names were nice and made a difference at first, I admit, but we need system that is more fair and effective.
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